Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:05 am GMT by Skribbles
Just want to see if my thinking is right. Prolly looks like a stupid question, but I think there would be an arguement for QQ over the other 2.
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Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:25 am GMT by Dave B
77, no question about it.
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:05 am GMT by suitedaces84
I'd also go with 77. The only difference is with QQ and 22 your odds of making a straight are slightly reduced. It doesn't make much difference, but you're better off vs 77. QQ is the last hand of the three I'd want to be called by.
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:17 am GMT by Muck
Is the risk of 2 pair on the board that insignificant compared to the straight? I’m not very good with these kind of odds calculations.
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:31 am GMT by snoogins47
My gut is saying 22.
EDIT:
Running it in a sim:
As Kd 799119 46.67 903239 52.75 9946 0.58 0.470
2c 2h 903239 52.75 799119 46.67 9946 0.58 0.530
As Kd 761478 44.47 946000 55.25 4826 0.28 0.446
7c 7h 946000 55.25 761478 44.47 4826 0.28 0.554
As Kd 730541 42.66 975909 56.99 5854 0.34 0.428
Qc Qh 975909 56.99 730541 42.66 5854 0.34 0.572
Believe that answers the question.
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:37 am GMT by suitedaces84
| Muck wrote: | | Is the risk of 2 pair on the board that insignificant compared to the straight? |
Forgot about the two pair. But it looks like we already have our answer.
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:38 am GMT by Dave B
I dont understand the results. Please explain what they were.
Poker calculator (assuming all 4 different suits):
AK 43% QQ 57%
AK 55% 77 45%
AK 53% 22 47% same results as Snoogies sim
I guess I dont really understand why 22 is less of an advantage than 77. 22 you have 2 outs missing for the wheel, 77 you have all cards in play for broadway, wheel or hitting a pair. For your wheel, you need a 2 against 22, and that give him a set and boat draw.
AH.....just clicked, 77 has more str8 possiblities of its own. I was wrong-22 is better to be against AK. I can admit when I am wrong, it happened in 2003 and I admitted it then.
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:02 pm GMT by Geno
| Dave B wrote: | | I can admit when I am wrong, it happened in 2003 and I admitted it then. |
Pricless 
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:23 pm GMT by Always_Bored
| Dave B wrote: | | I can admit when I am wrong, it happened in 2003 and I admitted it then. |
what were you wrong about in 2003?
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:16 am GMT by Muck
| Always_Bored wrote: | | Dave B wrote: | | I can admit when I am wrong, it happened in 2003 and I admitted it then. |
what were you wrong about in 2003? |
He thought he made a mistake 
Posted Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:37 pm GMT by snoogins47
and actually, because I'm bored and nitpicky, i'd prefer any one of them fold.
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