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Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:51 pm GMT by Skribbles
Played super tight the whole tourny as usual. Only played 1 hand previous to this, Bullets and took it down without a flop. Then this happens.... I HATE MORONS!
PokerStars Game #1546155836: Tournament #7060231, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV
(50/100) - 2005/04/18 - 20:37:44 (ET)
Table '7060231 93' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 1BigAceHole (2185 in chips)
Seat 2: A_BigSlick_K (2066 in chips)
Seat 3: dekilla (2071 in chips)
Seat 4: rose38 (3213 in chips)
Seat 5: Chaser2005 (4049 in chips)
Seat 6: racebannon12 (2494 in chips)
Seat 7: aceswildtoo (5777 in chips)
Seat 8: Dave_Babych8 (1530 in chips)
racebannon12: posts small blind 50
aceswildtoo: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dave_Babych8  
Dave_Babych8: calls 100
1BigAceHole: folds
A_BigSlick_K: raises 200 to 300
dekilla: folds
rose38: folds
Chaser2005: calls 300
racebannon12: folds
aceswildtoo: folds
Dave_Babych8: calls 200
*** FLOP ***   
shaddy075 is connected
Dave_Babych8: checks
A_BigSlick_K: bets 400
Chaser2005: raises 600 to 1000
Dave_Babych8: raises 230 to 1230 and is all-in
A_BigSlick_K: folds
Chaser2005: calls 230
*** TURN *** 
1BigAceHole said, "nh"
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dave_Babych8: shows (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
Chaser2005: shows   (a full house, Nines full of Tens)
Chaser2005 said, "wow"
Chaser2005 collected 3910 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3910 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: 1BigAceHole folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: A_BigSlick_K folded on the Flop
Seat 3: dekilla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rose38 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Chaser2005 (button) showed and won (3910) with a full house,
Nines full of Tens
Seat 6: racebannon12 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: aceswildtoo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Dave_Babych8 showed and lost with a full house, Sevens full of
Nines
Went into a $25+2 SnG right after and busted out first hand losing with QQ vs AA.
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Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:32 pm GMT by Hurricane Ham
Pretty typical crappy online player nonsense right there...makes a terrible call when he's clearly beat when he's just holding top pair, and runners the shit out of you. Not much to do there but take solace in the fact that for the most part....that doesn't happen and you're in a great spot in the tourney.
Posted Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:05 pm GMT by suitedaces84
I don't see a bad call anywhere. Perhaps there was an over aggressive bet with a very marginal hand in there somewhere. Why should he fold to your raise of 230 with a pot of well over 2K? But that is a rough beat.
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:37 am GMT by Gogie
I'd question your call of the preflop raise. Pocket 7's are pretty weak against any raise - you're up against two overcards at the very least and most likely need to hit the flop to win. Even if you hit your set, if overcards fall on the flop you still may be against a bigger set. Personally I fold small to mid pocket pairs against preflop raises (even if I've already called the BB) unless I have a really good read on the raiser or the table is short-handed (8 players is not short-handed).
After the flop you were obviously way ahead, but that doesn't justify your preflop call.
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:14 am GMT by Skribbles
I'll pretty much always play pocket pairs no matter what they are for the right price. In this case the raise was only 3xBB and I'll take a PP anytime for that price.
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:20 pm GMT by Hurricane Ham
My mistake aces, didn't read the betting close enough, yeah just a lousy beat right there, he can't fold for another 230.
And as for playing pocket pairs, I'll almost always try and see the flop as long as it's pretty cheap, raise of 3XBB or less. Obviously you need a set to win more often than not, but with what you win when you hit that set, it will greatly outweigh what you've put in the other seven times that you've missed. My most profitable hands are low pockets that hit sets, nearly always double up or knock someone out because they won't let go of top pair.
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:40 pm GMT by suitedaces84
| Gogie wrote: | | I'd question your call of the preflop raise. |
Yeah I agree. Not based on the raise in term of BB, but in terms of your stack. Even if you know for a fact you can double up everytime you hit your set the implied odds are still not with you in this case.
12%*1500 < 88%*300
Obviously if you had more chips relative to the raise it would be a good call.
Posted Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:56 pm GMT by Skribbles
By this point in the tourny 77 looked like a MONSTER.
This was the only other hand I had played till that point and I usually plays lots of hands in the early stages of tournys if I can... but the cards dictated extremely tight play.
PokerStars Game #1546147990: Tournament #7060231, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV
(50/100) - 2005/04/18 - 20:36:26 (ET)
Table '7060231 93' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 1BigAceHole (2185 in chips)
Seat 2: A_BigSlick_K (2066 in chips)
Seat 3: dekilla (2071 in chips)
Seat 4: rose38 (3263 in chips)
Seat 5: Chaser2005 (4199 in chips)
Seat 6: racebannon12 (2594 in chips)
Seat 7: aceswildtoo (4767 in chips)
Seat 8: Dave_Babych8 (1380 in chips)
Seat 9: jst52661 (860 in chips)
rose38: posts small blind 50
Chaser2005: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dave_Babych8  
racebannon12: folds
aceswildtoo: folds
Dave_Babych8: raises 300 to 400
jst52661: folds
1BigAceHole: folds
A_BigSlick_K: folds
dekilla: folds
rose38: folds
Chaser2005: folds
Dave_Babych8 collected 250 from pot
Dave_Babych8: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: 1BigAceHole folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: A_BigSlick_K folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dekilla (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rose38 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Chaser2005 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: racebannon12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: aceswildtoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dave_Babych8 collected (250)
Seat 9: jst52661 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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