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Would you have done this.



Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:37 am GMT by Soup_dog
I got an email yesterday telling me that party poker had put $15 into my account. How nice! I log on and see that I have 40 dollars to play with. Shocked Shocked Where the heck did that come from???

Anyway, I buy into a small ring game with $10. (I know, I know, I would love to buy in with the full amount, but I don't want to risk most of bankroll on the first table.) Here is a hand that came up and was hoping for some opinions.

I have about $6 left and am in late position and am dealt Ace Diamond , 10 Diamond .

2 or 3 limpers reach me where I raise it to $1. (4XBB) Two of the limpers in early position call.

The flop comes 9 Diamond , 10 Spade , 4 Diamond .
At this point I decide I want to win it right there. I have TPTK and the nut flush draw so I go all in with my remaining $5.

I got called by a guy in early position with 9, 10 offsuit and his two pair hold up.

I know he shouldn't be in the pot, thats just bad luck for me. My question is, should I have been more aggressive preflop, or was I too aggressive post flop? Or should I just chalk this up to "poker"?

Thanks a bunch!


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Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:55 am GMT by Always_Bored
TPTK with outs for the nut flush. I dont think your play was that bad. he just got lucky and flopped two pair. Your preflop bet with A,10 suited is a little bit questionable. I would have raised more or called. $1 is not going to scare many people off and you can get beat easily by a lot of hands.


Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:09 am GMT by Soup_dog
Always_Bored wrote:
TPTK with outs for the nut flush. I dont think your play was that bad. he just got lucky and flopped two pair. Your preflop bet with A,10 suited is a little bit questionable. I would have raised more or called. $1 is not going to scare many people off and you can get beat easily by a lot of hands.


Yep. Thats what I was thinking after the fact. If I had just called I would still lost but if I bet more I might have chased him out. It would have been a smaller pot, but it's better than losing! Rolling Eyes



Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:19 am GMT by Always_Bored
Soup_dog wrote:
Always_Bored wrote:
TPTK with outs for the nut flush. I dont think your play was that bad. he just got lucky and flopped two pair. Your preflop bet with A,10 suited is a little bit questionable. I would have raised more or called. $1 is not going to scare many people off and you can get beat easily by a lot of hands.


Yep. Thats what I was thinking after the fact. If I had just called I would still lost but if I bet more I might have chased him out. It would have been a smaller pot, but it's better than losing! Rolling Eyes


the problem with betting more is that its a mediocre hand and A,J - A,Q - A,K have you dominated. Not to mention high pocket pairs.



Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:06 pm GMT by Soup_dog
Always_Bored wrote:
Soup_dog wrote:
Always_Bored wrote:
TPTK with outs for the nut flush. I dont think your play was that bad. he just got lucky and flopped two pair. Your preflop bet with A,10 suited is a little bit questionable. I would have raised more or called. $1 is not going to scare many people off and you can get beat easily by a lot of hands.


Yep. Thats what I was thinking after the fact. If I had just called I would still lost but if I bet more I might have chased him out. It would have been a smaller pot, but it's better than losing! Rolling Eyes


the problem with betting more is that its a mediocre hand and A,J - A,Q - A,K have you dominated. Not to mention high pocket pairs.


True, but I have no problem laying it down if I missed the flop. Thats actually one of the few areas of my game where I don't have a problem. In this case, I would have considered my hand as hitting the flop. AK, AQ, or AJ would all be underdogs to a strong bet after the flop.

Live and learn.



Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:21 pm GMT by Always_Bored
Soup_dog wrote:


True, but I have no problem laying it down if I missed the flop. Thats actually one of the few areas of my game where I don't have a problem. In this case, I would have considered my hand as hitting the flop. AK, AQ, or AJ would all be underdogs to a strong bet after the flop.

Live and learn.


what if the flop came the same except an Ace instead of the 10? Then your the dog. To all those hands. And if your are willing to get away from this hand easily then why commit 1-6th of your stack preflop? If you need the flop to improve and plan on folding if you miss then I would prefer to limp in.



Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:41 pm GMT by fiezk
I think you played that hand almost perfectly. Very few hands, that would have possibly called a 4*BB raise preflop, had beaten your TPTK post flop.

Perhaps overbeting the pot post flop was a tad too aggressive. But then again, even with his TTP you had about a 44% chance to win.



Posted Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:59 pm GMT by suitedaces84
With a short stack that you're not going to get a much better opportunity than that. I think you played it fine.





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