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draws, paiured board, pot odds



Posted Thu May 05, 2005 7:18 pm GMT by krakajak
What pot odds do I need to chase a flush or open-ended straight draw if the board is paired? If your answer is "it depends..." Please provide different examples, and what odds I would need for each one.

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Posted Thu May 05, 2005 8:12 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Mathematically, you would need to calculate the odds of you getting your flush or straight and any opponent not getting a full house. So if the board is

8 Diamond 8 Heart 9 Club

and you have the 10 Spade J Spade while your opponent has the Q Spade 8 Club , you effectively have 4 outs, not 8 (or 7), because any Queen will complete your straight but give your opponent a full house. This assumes that you know your opponent's hand, but that isn't always necessary. Remember that based on betting patterns, people are more likely to play high cards and connecting cards, so a board of 8 8 9 is more of a worry than 3 3 7.

In any case, in the above example, you need one of the four remaining sevens to hit, and for any remaining 8 or Queen not to hit. Not a real good situation, as you only have a 16.5% chance of making your (winning) straight.



Posted Fri May 06, 2005 3:11 pm GMT by suitedaces84
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
Mathematically, you would need to calculate the odds of you getting your flush or straight and any opponent not getting a full house. So if the board is

8 Diamond 8 Heart 9 Club

and you have the 10 Spade J Spade while your opponent has the Q Spade 8 Club , you effectively have 4 outs, not 8 (or 7), because any Queen will complete your straight but give your opponent a full house. This assumes that you know your opponent's hand, but that isn't always necessary. Remember that based on betting patterns, people are more likely to play high cards and connecting cards, so a board of 8 8 9 is more of a worry than 3 3 7.

In any case, in the above example, you need one of the four remaining sevens to hit, and for any remaining 8 or Queen not to hit. Not a real good situation, as you only have a 16.5% chance of making your (winning) straight.

How might one apply this to an actual game?



Posted Fri May 06, 2005 3:28 pm GMT by Skribbles
Or you could be drawing dead already.





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