Posted Fri May 13, 2005 9:09 pm GMT by NickHow
If there are 3 to a flush on the board and you know that one person has made it, are you wary of anyone else making it?
***** Hand History for Game 2045010869 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Friday, May 13, 21:54:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 37114 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: G3N0THP ( $34.05 )
Seat 8: NickHowells ( $32.08 )
Seat 4: FlyWolf ( $30.8 )
Seat 6: MO542 ( $30.9 )
Seat 3: SlapShotAAA ( $17.6 )
Seat 7: cursive99 ( $55.7 )
Seat 2: PastorDoom ( $18.54 )
Seat 9: assaultrifle ( $10.15 )
Seat 5: Julian93 ( $12.75 )
Seat 10: Aardvarkian ( $16 )
SlapShotAAA posts small blind $0.1.
FlyWolf posts big blind $0.25.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NickHowells  
Julian93 folds.
MO542 folds.
cursive99 raises $0.75.
NickHowells calls $0.75.
assaultrifle folds.
Aardvarkian calls $0.75.
G3N0THP folds.
PastorDoom calls $0.75.
SlapShotAAA folds.
FlyWolf folds.
** Dealing Flop **   
cursive99 bets $1.
NickHowells raises $2.
Aardvarkian calls $2.
PastorDoom folds.
cursive99 calls $1.
** Dealing Turn ** 
cursive99 checks.
NickHowells bets $7.
Aardvarkian calls $7.
cursive99 calls $7.
** Dealing River ** 
At this point I know Aardvark has the flush. I presume therfore that cursive does not have it and so I'm thinking about getting some money back from cursive. Of course it didnt quite work like this.
cursive99 checks.
NickHowells bets $7.
Aardvarkian is all-In $6.25
cursive99 is all-In $45.95
assaultrifle: snap
NickHowells is all-In $15.33
NickHowells shows three of a kind, fives.
Aardvarkian shows   a flush, king high.
cursive99 shows   a flush, ace high.
cursive99 wins $23.62 from side pot #2 with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
cursive99 wins $31.61 from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
cursive99 wins $46.65 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
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Posted Fri May 13, 2005 9:18 pm GMT by gol4pro
The money needs to be in on the flop here.... out of 4 people, one of them is bound to call.
I hate the turn lead and river lead/call.
Posted Fri May 13, 2005 10:23 pm GMT by suitedaces84
| gol4pro wrote: | The money needs to be in on the flop here.... out of 4 people, one of them is bound to call.
I hate the turn lead and river lead/call. |
Yep. And what did you think cursive was going all-in with? I can understand going all-in to get a little back on the side-pot, but do you really think cursive is bluffing with $15 at a sidepot of $.75? Maybe there's something I'm missing here. 
Posted Mon May 16, 2005 9:10 am GMT by howzit
STOP MINRAISING!!!!
and i don't think the money should go in on the flop. . .overbet. Raise more on the flop (make it $4 on top), push on the turn.
Posted Mon May 16, 2005 11:06 am GMT by Muck
Hey NickHow! I never noticed you were a Newport boy :D
The birthplace of GLC and Dirty Sanchez, what a contribution to culture our city makes :D
Posted Mon May 16, 2005 2:11 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
if u knew one has flush then yes this was wreckless
as for Dirty Sanchez 
considering them, maybe it wasnt that bad afterall :D
Posted Mon May 16, 2005 2:24 pm GMT by zeroswarm
Don't know about it being reckless. If anything it wasn't reckless enough. Just what was that 1 dollar raise on the flop all about?
Posted Mon May 16, 2005 3:13 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
I don't think I would've called a 3x bb w/ 55 from mid position in a ten player....depending on how the table was feeling at the time tho....that said....I would have raised a good amount more on the flop, you need to get rid of some of the 5 players there, especially knowing that somebody is probably on a flush draw....your bet on the turn was good, and the flush drawers shouldn't have called, cuz their pot odds were probably too crappy at that point to validate a $7 call w/ a flush draw and two overs ( i think pot was around $9.35 at that point, w/ 15 outs, the pot needs to be around $15 and thats assuming they can win w/ top pair, top kicker, which they couldnt)....so you got screwed on the river....it happens...
just my 2 cents...
Posted Wed May 18, 2005 7:40 am GMT by red_pen
| gol4pro wrote: | | I hate the turn lead and river lead/call. |
While I agree that the play on the river was a bit strange, i don't get what is wrong with the $7 on the turn. It's about the size of the pot, give or take ?
Not having a dig, just interested to hear your thinking as I'd throw away all but the JT flush draw when faced with that bet unless I was pretty sure I could extract more money when I hit.
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 2:41 pm GMT by Jauron
| howzit wrote: | STOP MINRAISING!!!!
and i don't think the money should go in on the flop. . .overbet. Raise more on the flop (make it $4 on top), push on the turn. |
Yep, price the turn card, expensive but low enough you can drop the hand if it comes on the turn, and the force him to draw at it on the turn (if he misses) for all his chips.
As for the side pot thing...it's risky man.
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 3:40 pm GMT by myluckyhand
Your slow play on the flop with the min-raise busted you.
Raise more on the flop. I bet if you had made it $4 more to go on the flop and then led out a pot sized bet on the turn they would have dropped their hand. You didn't show enough strength from the beginning for them to fear chasing their flush.
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