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Bad call?



Posted Mon May 16, 2005 9:33 am GMT by HoJu
I was in a tourney. Was in 3rd place with about $1500 in chips. Involved in a pot with one other guy, he was 2nd with $2000. He was in BB and i was on the button, i called and he checked before flop.
I had 10,9. Flop comes Q,J,2. We both check. 8 comes on the turn to give me my straight. He checks, I bet half my stack and he calls. Obviously I'm a bit concerned. Another 8 comes on the river and he goes all in. I'm smelling a Full House as there is no possibility for a flush. Unfortunately, I've already got half my stack committed so I call and sure enough he had pocket queens to make a FH. Should I have folded the straight or was the call the right move? Perhaps I should have moved all in after the turn insead of just betting half my stack. Any opinions would be appreciated.


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Posted Mon May 16, 2005 2:28 pm GMT by zeroswarm
Think u were just a bit unlucky here. It would have taken something special to have folded the straight after committing over half your chips to the pot.


Posted Mon May 16, 2005 2:57 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
You probably did the right thing, especially considering he didn't raise preflop to represent his big pocket pair, so it was hard to place him on that. However, there are a couple other details that are very important.

How big were the blinds?...if they were 1k, 2k, they you definitely did the right thing cuz, you arent gonna see many more hands...

How many ppl were at the table?....if there were only 3, it makes your play better cuz chances are, there are fewer good hands out there

What is this guy's playing style?....if he has been pretty passive all night, not betting much...then the all-in might have been a tougher call.

When you think to yourself....did i make the right call?....there usually isn't a definite right/wrong answer w/o knowing everything that happened at the table....you kinda hafta feel it out considering things like the questions i asked above...



Posted Mon May 16, 2005 3:46 pm GMT by HoJu
Sid Lambert wrote:

How big were the blinds?...if they were 1k, 2k, they you definitely did the right thing cuz, you arent gonna see many more hands...

The Blinds were 50/100 at the time, they started out 10/20, i believe 50/100 was the 4th blind level.

Sid Lambert wrote:

How many ppl were at the table?....if there were only 3, it makes your play better cuz chances are, there are fewer good hands out there

There were 4 left.

Sid Lambert wrote:

What is this guy's playing style?....if he has been pretty passive all night, not betting much...then the all-in might have been a tougher call.

He was fairly aggresive all night. It was a 6 person tourney, and he and I were the most aggressive.

The more I look at what happened. I'm thinking the check on the flop probably did me in. If i had bet say $100, maybe he would've raised with a set of Qs which in turn would've gave me a better idea of where he stood.



Posted Mon May 16, 2005 4:17 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
Yeah, a bet on the flop for information might've been a good idea....

you mite've been able to place him on a full house 2s full of 8s on the river all-in....but w/ so few ppl, its tough to pass by your big hand....w/ few players, big hands gets ppl knocked out Sad



Posted Mon May 16, 2005 6:06 pm GMT by HoJu
Thanks guys


Posted Mon May 16, 2005 7:12 pm GMT by TheSalche
i think its safe to say even if you had of went all in on the turn, he would've called you with top set, considering there was only one hand that had him beat at that point.





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