Posted Tue May 17, 2005 10:45 am GMT by pattondad27
Someone please explain the benefits, strategies involved etc. of straddling. Thanks
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Posted Tue May 17, 2005 11:25 am GMT by arras
the benefits are that it builds the pot. the downside is you have raised without seeing your hand. if you do straddle, they say you are supposed to stay aggressive.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 3:54 am GMT by AAceman
what could u possibly achieve with this strategy?
Betting in the dark....
How ugly
Im sure i dont get this, please enlighten me 
Thanks
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 1:44 pm GMT by Magra
My opininon of why people do this is to
1)Prevent the BB from checking with bad hand, if they dont think any one will raise(and thus giving that person bigger odds to win)
2)Showing the others they arent afraid
3)(Maybe the biggest reason) Since they straddle, the other players wont know what they have, and if a all rag flop pops up they dont know if they have a pair, draw or nothing etc...so its harder to read unless they get re-raised
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 11:01 pm GMT by suitedaces84
I'm pretty sure straddling is for fixed limit not no limit. Straddling is raising in the dark then looking at your cards then 3-betting your own raise. This will force the entire table to cold call 3-bets, and will likely pick up the blinds, I'm still not sure exactly why anyone would do it.
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 12:15 am GMT by snoogins47
| suitedaces84 wrote: | | I'm pretty sure straddling is for fixed limit not no limit. Straddling is raising in the dark then looking at your cards then 3-betting your own raise. This will force the entire table to cold call 3-bets, and will likely pick up the blinds, I'm still not sure exactly why anyone would do it. |
I'm very confused. Every time I've straddled it's just essentially a double-sized BB. I put in two BBs UTG, before I get my cards, and it's live, so I can act after the BB preflop.
Either way, you do it to gamble, to give off the image of a gambler, or likely a combination of the two.
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 10:33 am GMT by suitedaces84
| snoogins47 wrote: | | I put in two BBs UTG, before I get my cards, and it's live, so I can act after the BB preflop. |
Okay that clears it up.
Posted Sun May 29, 2005 3:22 pm GMT by Jackal
I often check in the dark but seldom bet/raise. the only exception is on the turn when I suspect my opponent has a weak hand, I will go all in in the dark.
Posted Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:16 pm GMT by myjohnson
Live straddles do a couple of things.
1. Builds the Pot
2. Allows 1st Position to act last in an unraised pot. This can be a big benefit, because it allows a player to play mediocrehands which could hit, and it sometimes forces the blinds to fold, so if you do have a hit, you may get better rewards, because you didn't show strength pre-flop (how quickly some players forget that you straddled.)
I know the B&M's I go to allow you to straddle both limit and no-limit. I haven't seen any online sites that have this.
Posted Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:27 pm GMT by Jauron
I'm used to straddling in FL, but I had a guy do it in a NL game in Vegas, and not double the BB but x5 the BB. I asked the dealer if it was allowed and she said yes. I thought about it and decided it probably wasn't much different but then they guy did it on the button....I asked again how he could bet out of turn before the cards were dealt. Her answer wasn't to my liking and I announced I was done and got up, to my suprise the entire table also got up. (Truth is I didn't liike the blind structure anyway, they forced 3 hands to blind and we were only 7 handed)
I asked the floor manager about it, his first response was that no you can not bet out of turn (I asked him if the button could bet before it was his turn, he said no) I then explained what happened and he thought about it a long time and said it was ok. I asked why and he fumbled around for a while.
I then told him because he was allowing it, an entire table (and the only one mind you) had broken up. Only then was he concerned and tried to convince us to come back...I declined and move to another Casino.
Posted Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:19 am GMT by Nut Flush
That's retarded. The only person that can straddle is the person left of the big blind. Sounds like you were in a casino from "Vegas Vacation".
Posted Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:28 am GMT by Dave B
Straddling is rarely a good idea. Here is when you might want to think about it:
You have 2-3 bets remaining and want to get all in and go home. A straddle will get some action, since there is extra blinds. Your A9 K10 are now worth a 3 bet to try and isolate the straddle.
You are on a roll and want to run over the table. The F*CK YOU! I am betting and raising every hand, deal with it!
Posted Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:06 pm GMT by traz
there seems to be different ideas of what straddling is...so here's what I know it to be, and what I'm pretty sure is the accepted version of straddling.
Straddling can only be done when you're left of the big blind (UTG), and you effectively become a 3rd big blind, by betting double the big blind before cards are dealt.
The benefits of this are that you get option (instead of the big blind), and also the big blind can no longer limp in, because you've taken away his option.
When you straddle, you can conceivably have anything, so its hard for people to put you on a hand, and your junk hand can hit and pay off big. It is also useful if the person to your RIGHT (the BB) is a tight player, as you can steal his big blind. As others have said, it also helps to build the pot, though I don't see that as a good reason, as its likely you get a trash hand, so you don't want a big pot.
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