Posted Thu May 19, 2005 10:08 am GMT by zeroswarm
Yes, once again I am on about the most demonic hand in texas hold em poker....J J!!!!
After suffering yet another horrendous loss while attempting to win with the "Devils hand", I have decided to put up this poll.
Do u believe JJ is truley the 4th or 5th best hand in the game? Do u hate this hand? Do u like this hand? Or do u believe it really is the hand of the Devil?
Vote now.
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Posted Thu May 19, 2005 10:18 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
I never have problems with JJ. Perhaps I play it too passively at times, but it keeps me out of trouble as well.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 10:56 am GMT by arras
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | I never have problems with JJ. Perhaps I play it too passively at times, but it keeps me out of trouble as well. |
Me neither, I was playing at the casino the other night and won with JJ a few times and people kept oooohing and aaahhhing that they held up. That befuddled me.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 11:18 am GMT by flafishy
JJ is a great hand. But the trick to playing it is that you have to know when to give it up.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 11:52 am GMT by tylanthus
Great hand....third biggest winner for me (QQ is lagging behind).
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 1:44 pm GMT by groton
real nice hand
i win when i play it but you got to know when to fold with it.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 2:51 pm GMT by zeroswarm
tylanthus. Never seen u before but u look almost godlike. If u are God I aint gonna mess. If u aint then come face me.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 3:30 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
JJ is a good hand, but like all pocket pairs, it is only a PAIR. It gets beat by a lot of hands, and most of the trouble I see people have with it is attachment. They like having a strong starting hand, but won't release it even when it's obvious they are beat.
The best thing about JJ is that when you flop a set, it can still be quite deceptive, since an overcard will often give an opponent the second best hand. However, there are lots of flops that will be betray JJ, so you must proceed with discretion.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 5:01 pm GMT by ibarrio
Son of Satan..
I actually like J's..J's won me my single biggest pot...over $300..Of course that third J to make a set helped..
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 6:21 pm GMT by xhi
Bet it like you had AA. When you see noone is believing it then play it like a pair of xs.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 6:22 pm GMT by General Sal
Jacks are definitely one of much discussion. As far as my story with Jacks... maybe around October, I made it to the final table with Jacks... twice I got them, and I had called an all in bet with two people, shorter stacked than me with them. Needless to say, they won... giving me enough chips to make the final table. In that tournament, I had made it down to the four, then we cut a deal... I made $1300 at that tourney. In November, believing I was an excellent player, I bought in at a $300 tourney at Hollywood Park. 300 players. I get Jacks on the first round, and I'm on the button with them. I raise in the back with a three limpers in front of me, and under the gun reraises me. I move all in. Everyone else folds. He calls... yeah he had aces. I was the first person out of that tourney!
I've read about the hand in Cloutier's books. To now, you have to play them correctly. Either raise or just limp in with them... this has to do with your position, the players you're playing with, and how they're playing because of the blind structure, and their stack sizes in relation to the blind structure.
Posted Thu May 19, 2005 8:34 pm GMT by tame_deuces
I remember me and a poker-interested friend tried to find a new tag for pocket jacks. We ended up with
"hump 'em and dump 'em"
or for those that which to be less rude
"bump 'em and dump 'em"
The name ofcourse, comes from a reflection of how play often turns out with jacks. 
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 4:04 am GMT by AAceman
why does everybody assume a third J cant come on the flop?
man.....
it IS a possibily and u will reap havoc on somebody's stack when it happens..
Just fold that mother when overcards appear!
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 6:31 am GMT by zeroswarm
Last time I had them (in a mtt) a third jack DID come on the flop. It didn't, however, prevent me from losing nearly 8000 chips!!!
Posted Fri May 20, 2005 7:47 am GMT by BigJii
JJ is 7th best hand for me. Their winning percentages are 56% and I make with them 1, 25 big bet average.
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