Posted Sat May 21, 2005 7:51 am GMT by weirpougs
this happened in a recent game. can anyone tell me the odds on two players getting these hands? how could i work it out in the future?
£5 home game (no rebuys) 8 players - one absoulte novice and one was semi novice.
luckily the novices didn't win (i would of punched them)
anyway down to three players myself included.
button Me 65s (shot stacked - just enough for one big blind)
player 1 AA (huge stack)
player 2 KK (medium stack)
i fold (luckly) then eventually player two get put all in pre flop.
board is....wait i'm an idiot at dealing and flip the burn card.....it's a KING! but wait...
here comes the board 10 K 9 K 6!!
player 2 wins to my relief.
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Posted Sat May 21, 2005 10:34 am GMT by flipout123
Uh...that's 5 Kings.
Posted Sat May 21, 2005 12:09 pm GMT by Imajica1975
| flipout123 wrote: | | Uh...that's 5 Kings. |
Maybe they were using 5 decks in the shuffler like that one guy... 
Posted Sat May 21, 2005 12:34 pm GMT by weirpougs
ooops... sorry typo as computer was crashing as i wrote it. it was a jack.
Posted Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:05 pm GMT by AfroBilly
It doesnt matter if its AA or KK. Whenever there's two pocket pairs head-to-head, the higher pair is 4:1, or 4.4:1 if the suits on the pocket pairs match.
I think...
Posted Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:14 am GMT by Silhouette
What about AA offsuit vs. KK suited?
That doesn't change the odds much, but there's always that chance for a flush. I'm pretty sure Bill Fillmaff would play that hand.
:D
Posted Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:04 am GMT by Tadzio
Are you guys just kidding around? At least post a wink 
...Suited pocket pairs... hehe,
Posted Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:31 am GMT by Lokey
I had a neat little hand one time in a home game where my all-in with pocket queens was met by pocket jacks and pocket kings. Luckily I hit a queen on the flop.
Posted Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:53 pm GMT by AfroBilly
| Tadzio wrote: | Are you guys just kidding around? At least post a wink
...Suited pocket pairs... hehe, |
No, no, no. When I was talking about the suits on the pocket pairs matching, I meant like A  A  vs. K K
Posted Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:58 pm GMT by lwestatbus
True story: Playing live limit and I had AA. Flop was AKQ. Betting went crazy. Turn and river paired sixes. Betting went ballistic with myself and two other players in. Showdown showed AA (me), KK, and QQ. UN__believable. Was glad to have had the aces.
Posted Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:45 am GMT by tutubird
I think the chances of your KK being up against AA is 1:24. Correct me if im wrong.
Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:11 am GMT by Always_Bored
| lwestatbus wrote: | | True story: Playing live limit and I had AA. Flop was AKQ. Betting went crazy. Turn and river paired sixes. Betting went ballistic with myself and two other players in. Showdown showed AA (me), KK, and QQ. UN__believable. Was glad to have had the aces. |
ive seen aces, queens and jacks all hit on the flop. I had queens, but it was limit so i didnt lose much.
Posted Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:12 pm GMT by parksah07
| tutubird wrote: | | I think the chances of your KK being up against AA is 1:24. Correct me if im wrong. |
odds based on what, 1:24 times you get KK there will be AA against you? as for the exact odd im not sure but im interested to know, because i've seen AA vs KK against each other about 15-20 times a night in 3-4 sessions, needless to say i no longer play on that site,
anyone know what the exact odds are?
Posted Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:30 pm GMT by DougisRad
For every 24 times you have kings, someone will have another pair (including aces), so it's best to never try to figure out when.
Posted Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:22 pm GMT by Icec0o1
Nah, that seems way too often.
You have a 1 in 20 chance to get a pocket pair. AA is 1 of 13 possible pocket pairs but let's make it 1 of 12 since we can discard the last two kings. So 20 * 30 = 500. Let's say a full table, that means 9 opponents so it's 500/9 = about 1 in 56.
Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:05 am GMT by Muck
You know what’s funny. On my way to work I now pass a big billboard for some random poker site.
It shows a table and two players with their hole cards face up pre-flop. On has Aces and one has Kings.
This made me wonder. What message are they trying to get across? Probably “Look poker has exciting hands”, but what I saw was “You’ve got to be willing to play the odds and bust”. Then again someone in between would probably think, “Meh that proves poker’s just luck, why should I play”.
Posted Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:46 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
uhh, i happen to have the exact numbers in front of me for this situation:
Situation - Win - Loss - Tie
A A K K - 1410336 - 292660 - 9308
A A K K  - 1399204 - 305177 - 7923
A A K K  - 1388072 - 317694 - 6538
so for example there are 1,712,304 different board combinations, and bullets win in 1,410,336 combinations where both player's cards are suited
So,
82.3648% win & 0.5436% tie when both hands are suited
81.7147% win & 0.4627% tie when one suit matches
81.0646% win & 0.3818% tie when no suits match
approximately 4:1 or 1 in 5 odds for KK to pull thru, suits really dont matter much
just for fun,
A A 8 8 - 1374874 - 331680 - 5750
giving 80.2938% chance to win and 0.3358% to tie, making almost no difference....but the snowmen do have a better chance against bullets than king kong cuz of straight potential 
Posted Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:42 pm GMT by KingOHearts
I seem to remember seeing somewhere that the odds of AA producing a winning hand preflop is like 45%...is that against all random hands, or any random hand..what is the correct way to state this and can someone please provide a link that expplains this? (Settling a dispute). Thanks!!
Posted Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:58 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| KingOHearts wrote: | | I seem to remember seeing somewhere that the odds of AA producing a winning hand preflop is like 45%...is that against all random hands, or any random hand..what is the correct way to state this and can someone please provide a link that expplains this? (Settling a dispute). Thanks!! |
AA has about 85% equity versus a random hand preflop.
Which translated means that if you bet all-in with AA and your opponent will call with any two cards, you should statistically win 85% of the money in those pots over time. Well, minus/plus alot of statistical voodoo.
For preflop push situations equity will be almost identical to statistical win rate, only marginally being off because of the times it is a split pot.
I recommend downloading 'pokerstove'. With that program you can put a hand up against a specific hand, hand ranges or a 'random hand' and see the probably outcome of the hand versus one or more opponents (all with different hand variables).
Posted Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:08 am GMT by KingOHearts
OK, thanks....maybe it was against a certain number of other random hands? Boy that 45% number sticks in my head though.
Posted Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:10 pm GMT by Implied_Odds
I cracked Aces with pocket Kings. I also cracked trip 9's in the same hand with a King on the river making a Full Boat. That was a nice pot. I think the trip 9 guy hand A9 suited preflop. He had no bussiness being in the hand. The hand was capped preflop.
Posted Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:11 pm GMT by KingOfSpades
Mabye i'm doing this wrong but wouldn't the chance of getting a specific pocket pair be .4525%. 4/52 * 3/51 = .004525. So for 2 specific pocket pairs such as KK and AA, wouldn't you just do .004525/2 to get a .2263% chance of it happening.
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