This one caught me by surprise, is it a bad beat? |
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Posted Sun May 29, 2005 4:05 pm GMT by suitedaces84
2/4 FL on party
Preflop: KK in the BB, UTG maniac raises, three callers I 3-bet, UTG maniac caps.
Flop: 6 6 5 rainbow. MP bets, next guy calls, I raise, UTG 3-bets, 1 fold, 1 call, I call.
Turn: 3 still a rainbow board. UTG bets other guy folds, I raise, UTG calls.
River 5: He checks, I bet, he raises, I call.
Showdown: You guessed it, he had Q6s. 
I know I was behind on every street (except preflop), is it still a "bad beat"?
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Posted Sun May 29, 2005 4:16 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Considering you were an 80% favourite pre-flop it is a tough break. But I wouldn't say it was a bad beat (Personally I don't believe in bad beats based on pre-flop odds).
He got lucky. If he he caps preflop with Q6 he shouldnt be keeping those money for long.
Posted Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:08 pm GMT by 1988 TR
I would slow down after he raises me on the turn. Any six beats you - Once he starts raising, you can't put him on that?
Posted Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:26 pm GMT by Phil14312
| 1988 TR wrote: | | I would slow down after he raises me on the turn. Any six beats you - Once he starts raising, you can't put him on that? |
A true 2/4 Maniac could have anything in his hand. Hell I've seen this type of thing with AQ before.
Posted Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:47 pm GMT by TheSalche
| Phil14312 wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | | I would slow down after he raises me on the turn. Any six beats you - Once he starts raising, you can't put him on that? |
A true 2/4 Maniac could have anything in his hand. Hell I've seen this type of thing with AQ before. |
exactly ... and thats why that style of play has its advantages
Posted Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:49 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Phil14312 wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | | I would slow down after he raises me on the turn. Any six beats you - Once he starts raising, you can't put him on that? |
A true 2/4 Maniac could have anything in his hand. Hell I've seen this type of thing with AQ before. |
Sure, so you check and call him down. I wouldn't be giving up the big bets (Turn & River).
Posted Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:50 pm GMT by Phil14312
I think that I play the hand exactly the same except that I think I check behind on the turn. I think as a maniac he might have a 5 here, and even maniacs get AA every now and then. I mean besides that pre-flop cap, this guy outplayed everyone on the hand, I think on the turn he read you as having an overpair and knew he could get a check-raise in on the river. When I play maniacs I tend to get real suspicious and might check/call hands on the river I otherwise wouldn't against more reasonable players.
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