Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:38 am GMT by howzit
1-3NL live.
Stack: $200
Villain: $300
You open in MP to $26 w/99. Villain in BB moves in. . . call or fold.
Also, villain is aggressive.
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Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:42 am GMT by Skribbles
No. The only hands you have beat are 8's and lower. Other than that you're a coin flip at best. If this guy values his low PPs that much than maybe, but I wouldn't risk $200 hoping for a coin flip.
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:02 pm GMT by snoogins47
How aggressive? Is he not the type to push with a big pair? It seems likely that this is a hand he doesn't really want to take to a flop... how wide of a range do you think he's pushing here? Since you noted that he's "aggressive" I figure the range is fairly wide, in which case this is a pretty clear call.
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:05 pm GMT by saper88aa
i'd call, its like snoogins said
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:34 pm GMT by howzit
hahha, villain was me. I tabled J3o and rivered broadway.
A little background: I had a hair cut in 10 minutes and if i won that $26 bet, I would've paid for my haircut, thus my huge overbet.
FWIW, even if I thought he was bluffing w/K10o, i still wouldn't call cuz i could be looking at kings/aces played terribly. I'm on the philosophy that in a live game, that this call is a losing call.
My range is so wide that I can be doing this w/AA - J3o but at 1.4:1 to call this should be an easy fold.
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:48 pm GMT by snoogins47
| howzit wrote: | hahha, villain was me. I tabled J3o and rivered broadway.
A little background: I had a hair cut in 10 minutes and if i won that $26 bet, I would've paid for my haircut, thus my huge overbet.
FWIW, even if I thought he was bluffing w/K10o, i still wouldn't call cuz i could be looking at kings/aces played terribly. I'm on the philosophy that in a live game, that this call is a losing call.
My range is so wide that I can be doing this w/AA - J3o but at 1.4:1 to call this should be an easy fold. |
If your range is that wide, there's no way this is a losing call.
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:55 pm GMT by howzit
AA - J3o hand range makes this a clear call. But i think this hand range is very rare and players making this call will not be a winning player.
(I also play AA like this against WPT players -young, sunglasses, short stacked)
I really should be a little more careful on the way I word things because Snoogs is correct if you take my writings on face value. But, in this case, I can't think of a consistant winning player making this huge overcall in a cash game to be long-term successful.
I still think he made a great call on me (also he was playing over his friend's stack at the time so I thought I had a lot more fold equity)
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:00 pm GMT by snoogins47
Well the point is, if he knows you're pushing with a wide range, it's an easy call, and a good player should make it every time. If not, it's a no-brainer laydown.
You don't even have to be that much of a maniac for his call to be correct, but it's a pretty clear fold against an unknown
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:07 pm GMT by suitedaces84
I need a haircut...hmmm.
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:41 pm GMT by Soup_dog
| suitedaces84 wrote: | | I need a haircut...hmmm. |
Where the heck did that come from? 
Posted Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:43 pm GMT by suitedaces84
| howzit wrote: | hahha, villain was me. I tabled J3o and rivered broadway.
A little background: I had a hair cut in 10 minutes and if i won that $26 bet, I would've paid for my haircut, thus my huge overbet. |
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