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Split pots.



Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:45 am GMT by sean402
Example
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Player One: A of Diamonds & 5 of Spades
Player Two: A of Clubs & 2 of Hearts

Board: K of Hearts, Q of Hearts, 10 of Spades, 6 of Diamonds, and 3 of Clubs
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In this example, the player 1 and 2 should split the pot, but why? Doesn't Player One have a higher kicker? The 5 of spades. I was watching PokerStar on TV earlier and there was a hand similar to this. I didnt really understand why it was splitted. Could you someone please help me out. I've only been playing for a short period of time. Thanks.


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Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:58 am GMT by sean402
I have looked at some of the other threads about the kicker rules but still a little confused. People are talking about the best 5 cards. What is that? Is that from the 10 to the A? Would someone please clarify for me? Can only 10 to A be considered a kicker? or Can any card?


Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:18 am GMT by sean402
i'm pretty much replying to myself. I found another example of split pots that I dont understand. here it is.


Player 1: A Diamond 3 Heart
Player 2: A Club 9 Diamond

Board: 10 Club , J Heart , K Diamond , Q Spade , 4 Heart

Player 1: Straight from 10 to A
Player 2: Straight from 10 to A

I think i just answered my own question about the 5 best cards thing. Both players only want to use the 5 cards that are best to them. So both players could just discard the 3 and the 9, correct?



Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:20 am GMT by sean402
And if the players want, they dont even have to use their pocket cards? Right? I guess im still a little bit confused.


Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:28 am GMT by sean402
Okay, last question for now.

Player 1: A Diamond , Q Spade
Player 2: Q Club , 4 Heart

Board: 4 Club , K Heart , K Diamond , J Spade , J Heart

Why does Player 1 Win when Player 2 has a pair of 4's? Does Player 1 drop the Q Spade and just take the AKKJJ while Player 2 drops the 4 and takes the QKKJJ? Am I on the right track? Over the weekend, I played with some strangers and they kind of picked on me because I was a newbie. I now realize that I've lost a few hands where I shouldnt have. Thats the reason why I'm asking all these questions now. Hope someone is kind enough to share their knowledge. Thanks.



Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:16 am GMT by improv
Seeing as you are being left to fend for yourself...

A player can use both, one or none of his pocket cards to make his best hand.
In you first example:
Player ones best hand is: A Diamond K Heart Q Heart 10 Spade 6 Diamond
Player twos best hand is: A Club K Heart Q Heart 10 Spade 6 Diamond

Therefore they both have exactly the same hand - split pot.

In your last example, you are correct in what you say, player 2's best hand is 2 pair KK and JJ with a Q kicker, while player1's best hand is 2pair KK and JJ with an A kicker, therefore player 1 wins... The fact that player 2 also had a pair of 4's is irrelevant, as those 4;s dont come into player 2's BEST 5 CARD HAND.

Hopefully this clears up a few of your questions/confusions!



Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:34 am GMT by improv
Also you may benefit from reading this topic...

http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/forum/t3459/poker-faq--please-read-before-starting-a-new-thread :D



Posted Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:22 pm GMT by sean402
thanks for the help, you are very kind. Laughing





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