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Posted Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:32 pm GMT by Dr_Pablo
http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=77538
I just dont see what hands a typical player does this with, And up until this point through 50 hands or so, he was very much the typical player.
i think at least this is a 50/50 situation. a friend whos advice is always good says i could call that because i already have the 24$ profit in my stack, (nl 50)
well looking for more opinions because this hand is really bothering me
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Posted Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:06 pm GMT by mick7
I would have called. If he flopped a set or two pair he would have made a bet to insure call. By going all in he did not want a call so you more than likely had the best hand.
Posted Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:08 pm GMT by suitedaces84
| mick7 wrote: | | I would have called. If he flopped a set or two pair he would have made a bet to insure call. By going all in he did not want a call so you more than likely had the best hand. |
This logic is very flawed.
I fold this everytime with no info. on my oppoent. If he's certified himself as a maniac it's a call. It's a tough spot for sure.
Posted Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:23 pm GMT by snoogins47
Look into his soul and see if he's pushing 68o or not.
Posted Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:05 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| snoogins47 wrote: | | Look into his soul and see if he's pushing 68o or not. |
But make sure you're wearing your protective eyewear first.
Posted Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:17 am GMT by improv
I have to agree with those before me, without any info on this guy its a fold. I guess at A K. Although it must be annoying to fold top pair with a good kicker, however i think you were beat.
Posted Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:27 am GMT by howzit
| Dr_Pablo wrote: | a friend whos advice is always good says i could call that because i already have the 24$ profit in my stack, (nl 50)
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your friend is not very good at giving poker advice.
Call reluctantly.
Posted Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:25 pm GMT by zeroswarm
| improv wrote: | | I have to agree with those before me, without any info on this guy its a fold. I guess at A K. Although it must be annoying to fold top pair with a good kicker, however i think you were beat. |
My guess is the same. He had AK and didn't want anyone to see further cards and draw out on him.
Good fold (in my opinion).
Posted Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:32 pm GMT by howzit
do you guys realize this is 6 handed?
Posted Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:42 pm GMT by Soup_dog
I think I would fold. Correct me if I am wrong, but your pot odds are close to 1 to 1 and you have top pair w/ good kicker (Not top kicker). You don't have much invested so I think I would fold this hand and watch for another opportunity. By the same token, I would remember this hand and see how he continues to play. If he keeps pulling this play, sooner or later he is going to get shot in the foot.
Posted Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:21 pm GMT by chaninov
Tough decision. I would have to wonder what hand he put you on. If he put you on an A before the flop I could see why he would make this move if he flopped a set. (Remember that you were the raiser pre-flop and there's a good chance that's what he put you on) It's not that easy to believe that someone flopped a set six handed and down to three on the flop. If he knew this and put you on an A he would probably move in trying to make you believe he was bluffing or semi-bluffing with A low kick or a draw. He would want to put you on the fence and hope you fell his way. He could also have been thinking this with AK. Without any indication as to how he plays makes this very tough, but I think you made the right decision. I don't think a weak player(even one that bluffs constanty) would bluff all his chips with an A on the flop and a pre-flop raiser. I also don't think a strong player would overplay a draw, A low kick, or bluff, in that way. A strong player would probably want more information and use some sort of feeler bet. If you ask me, good decision.
Posted Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:07 pm GMT by NickFlynn
Maybe I'm a pussy, but this is an easy fold for me. I'm not calling that kind of bet with that hand, unless I've got a monster read on my opponent. I've got $2 in the pot, a decent hand and literally no idea what he has - I'm gone.
- Nick
Posted Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:48 pm GMT by Phil14312
I agree with Nick. Plus, if he's the type of player to make this play consistently, he's the type of player you should be able to break in a future hand.
Posted Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:27 pm GMT by 1988 TR
Call. Everytime, twice on Sunday.
I think if he had a better hand than AQ, he would want to get paid more.
Very easy call for me.
Posted Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:38 pm GMT by NickFlynn
| 1988 TR wrote: | Call. Everytime, twice on Sunday.
I think if he had a better hand than AQ, he would want to get paid more.
Very easy call for me. |
You haven't spent very much time at the 6 max NL25 tables, have you?
- Nick
Posted Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:48 am GMT by 1988 TR
| NickFlynn wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | Call. Everytime, twice on Sunday.
I think if he had a better hand than AQ, he would want to get paid more.
Very easy call for me. |
You haven't spent very much time at the 6 max NL25 tables, have you?
- Nick |
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It is all I play. Last night I was at the $10/$20 $2k buy in on Full Tilt. Won $2,680 in 10 minutes. Feel free to play with me any time you need a game.
I think the comment that I don't play NL is funny...
Please, by all means, pick your poison & I will be more than happy to accomodate you in a NL game of your choosing.
If you are going to go all in when flopping an ace with AK or flopping 2 pair, or trips, then I am afraid you will not fair well.... Might be hard to get paid off on your better hands.
Posted Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:37 am GMT by NickFlynn
| 1988 TR wrote: | | NickFlynn wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | Call. Everytime, twice on Sunday.
I think if he had a better hand than AQ, he would want to get paid more.
Very easy call for me. |
You haven't spent very much time at the 6 max NL25 tables, have you?
- Nick |
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It is all I play. Last night I was at the $10/$20 $2k buy in on Full Tilt. Won $2,680 in 10 minutes. Feel free to play with me any time you need a game.
I think the comment that I don't play NL is funny...
Please, by all means, pick your poison & I will be more than happy to accomodate you in a NL game of your choosing.
If you are going to go all in when flopping an ace with AK or flopping 2 pair, or trips, then I am afraid you will not fair well.... Might be hard to get paid off on your better hands. |
Woah, there, big fellow. Put your willie back in your pants and calm down.
I didn't say you didn't play NL or mean to insult you. I meant that perhaps you didn't play much *low-buy-in* NL down in the kiddie pool where I live. I see morons pulling the massive overbet on the flop move all the time - there is no way to put them on a hand - they'll do it with almost any type of hand. Sometimes it's a monster, sometimes they've got 3rd pair. I don't call them unless I've got a hand that is just too good to lay down. I don't think a pair of aces with a queen kicker is that hand.
Peace, brother.
- Nick
Posted Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:52 am GMT by 1988 TR
I hear ya.
Yep, definitely don't spend any time down there, but with my style of play, I call that all the time. :D
Posted Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:57 am GMT by 1988 TR
PS, I hate when my willie is hanging out. I'll tuck it back in my sock & move on. 
PSS - Is your avatar you on the track?
Posted Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:02 pm GMT by NickFlynn
| 1988 TR wrote: | I hear ya.
Yep, definitely don't spend any time down there, but with my style of play, I call that all the time. :D |
I think it's a different play at the higher levels where there are less complete morons. At the low levels, calling this bet might be a money winner, but the variance is going to be pretty damned big.
I've seen too many of these plays:
5 players, $1 pot
9  8 8 
First player pushed all-in for about $15
One caller (only has about $2)
The pusher flips over 99.
Nice hand, sez me.
- Nick
Posted Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:03 pm GMT by NickFlynn
| 1988 TR wrote: |
PSS - Is your avatar you on the track? |
Yeah, that's me.
- Nick
Posted Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:30 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| NickFlynn wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: |
PSS - Is your avatar you on the track? |
Yeah, that's me.
- Nick |
Nice!
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