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Posted Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:13 pm GMT by age_of_sages
**** Hand History for Game 2331428204 *****
$2/$4 Hold'em - Thursday, July 07, 18:34:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 31958 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: stinyb ( $136 )
Seat 3: rramgo ( $72.92 )
Seat 5: wschmidley ( $142 )
Seat 6: Lonnew ( $136 )
Seat 7: shuangzhang ( $115.5 )
Seat 9: HexZeal ( $100 )
Seat 10: volkl77 ( $83.75 )
Seat 8: age_of_sages ( $98 )
Seat 4: Bill138 ( $76.55 )
Seat 2: WinForBlue ( $100 )
age_of_sages posts small blind $1 .
HexZeal posts big blind $2 .
Holecards:
Dealt to age_of_sages  
CALL volkl77, $2
FOLD stinyb
CALL rramgo, $2
CALL Bill138, $2
FOLD wschmidley
FOLD Lonnew
CALL shuangzhang, $2
CALL age_of_sages , $1
CHECK HexZeal
Flop:
  
CHECK age_of_sages
BET HexZeal, $2
FOLD volkl77
FOLD rramgo
CALL Bill138, $2
CALL shuangzhang, $2
CALL age_of_sages , $2
Turn:
CHECK age_of_sages
BET HexZeal, $4
FOLD Bill138
FOLD shuangzhang
CALL age_of_sages , $4
River:
CHECK age_of_sages
BET HexZeal, $4
FOLD age_of_sages
HexZeal does not show cards.
I'm thinking if I raise the flop it gives me a chance to win the pot if I miss my draw. I put this guy on a queen though as he seemed pretty straightforward, so not likely he'd have folded. I'm also not sure if my turn call was ok or just fishy.
What do the other limit players here do?
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Posted Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:26 pm GMT by TheSalche
my impression of limit is that you should've raised it here since the pot is already large enough so that everybody will call your raise thus sweetening the pot if you hit your draw
the problem with the end result here is that if you check raise the flop to possibly represent a king (and since you just limped preflop a weak king), if HexZeal calls the turn and hits his third queen he isnt going anywhere
technically you could be repesenting a set of dueces too
im thinking if you check call to the river than he will put you on a draw and even if he has bottom pair at the river he will still bet to take the pot
Posted Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:16 pm GMT by 1988 TR
It looks like you had perfect position to raise the flop to buy a free river card if you missed the turn. Buying a free card is a pretty important aspect to limit poker.
Posted Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:55 pm GMT by snoogins47
I raise that flop the vast majority of the time. If my quick math was right you're getting 6 to 1 on the turn... don't even think about folding.
Posted Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:31 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| snoogins47 wrote: | | If my quick math was right... |
To paraphrase Bones from Star Trek IV, I trust your guesses more than other people's facts. 
Posted Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:40 am GMT by age_of_sages
Thanks guys, that's a flop i'll raise most of the time, but I just haven't been hittin g those lately, so maybe I was a little gunshy. Needed a little confirmation that it is in fact correct to raise that though.
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