Who wins, Straight Question |
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:46 am GMT by vai777
Board
J Q K A 4
PLAYER 1
10 4
PLAYER 2
A 10
Split or is it player 2 who dosent need the boards ACE to complete the straight.
thanks in advance
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Posted Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:31 am GMT by Peesocake
Top 5 card rule = split.
Posted Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:59 pm GMT by metal1
Yeah, its best 5 card hand no matter where they come from. your pocket cards or the board. one is not better than the other.
Posted Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:30 pm GMT by deadmoney28
simple rule: kickers never come into play on straits
Posted Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:13 am GMT by galderon
| deadmoney28 wrote: | | simple rule: kickers never come into play on straits |
I hate when ununsed cards are referred to as kickers. If they're not one of the five cards used in the hand, they're not kickers. Straights don't have kickers.
Rant over. :D
Posted Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:35 am GMT by Muck
I was going to rant at this but couldn’t find a clear way of defining a kicker.
Is it just “Your lowest ranked hole card”?
Is it only “the 5th (unpaired) card in a two pair hand”?
Is it “the least significant hole card that makes the players hand highest”?
Please post your definitions.
Posted Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:19 am GMT by galderon
| Muck wrote: | | Please post your definitions. |
I've heard it defined as: The highest unpaired side card in a player's hand.
A hand is defined as: A player's best five cards.
So I'd say unless you're playing with some house rule where the two unused cards break ties between two identical hands, the unused cards are not, by definition, kickers.
Posted Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:43 pm GMT by goldog
When my AK gets beat by AA I always say "Nice Kicker" 
Posted Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:30 pm GMT by brad1975
Kicker
In a tie hand between one pair, two pair, or three-of-a-kind, the remaining card(s) that make up the hand. The player with the highest card(s) wins.
right out of our glossary!
Posted Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:00 am GMT by Muck
| brad1975 wrote: | Kicker
In a tie hand between one pair, two pair, or three-of-a-kind, the remaining card(s) that make up the hand. The player with the highest card(s) wins.
right out of our glossary! |
Ummm, that’s actually not a very good definition (sorry if someone on this site wrote it) :/
It doesn’t actually say what a kicker is and it could be misinterpreted too.
E.g.
Board A A A K Q
Player 1 T 9
Player 2 3 2
The definition makes it sound like Player 1 wins because he has the highest cards, even though he’s not using them.
Posted Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:30 am GMT by Geno
Beginners' guide to winning poker hands
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:32 am GMT by galderon
| Muck wrote: | Ummm, that’s actually not a very good definition (sorry if someone on this site wrote it) :/
It doesn’t actually say what a kicker is and it could be misinterpreted too.
E.g.
Board A A A K Q
Player 1 T 9
Player 2 3 2
The definition makes it sound like Player 1 wins because he has the highest cards, even though he’s not using them. |
The definition refers to "the remaining card(s) that make up the hand". If he's not using them, they're not in the hand. In your example, the hand (for both players) is "three aces". The remaining card(s) that make up the hand are the king and queen, again for both players. These are technically the kickers, although they're the same for both players in this particular example. The other two cards for each player aren't in the hand, and are therefore not kickers.
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:58 am GMT by Muck
But the second sentence doesn’t mention kickers, it just says “The player with the highest card(s) wins”, I think that could be open for misinterpretation.
I know this seems so obvious to us but no matter how many times you say the player with the best 5 card hand wins people still start threads saying “if the we’re both playing the board do we use our hole cards as a decider?”.
Okay I’ll give you this. I’m just being pedantic because I hate the term.
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:21 pm GMT by galderon
| Muck wrote: | | But the second sentence doesn’t mention kickers, it just says “The player with the highest card(s) wins”, I think that could be open for misinterpretation. |
Ah, I see what you are saying...the last sentence doesn't mention kickers, so it is open for misinterpretation. Although isn't that a rule in definitions? A definition shouldn't include the word that you're defining, right?
Well anyway, topic officially beat-to-death. :D
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