Two live hands - playing with mediocre cards |
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Posted Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:46 am GMT by Idaho
These two hands came in quick succession last night at the local casino $40 rebuy tourney. Both were after the freezeout when the 5 table tourney was down to 2 tables. Blinds 300/600.
Hand 1
Button with QJs. All fold round to the cut-off who is a reasonably solid player. He calls. I call. No raise from the BB (total calling station). I was down to about 5,000 chips. CO had a little more.
Flop comes down K J 6 (mixed suits)
BB checks
CO checks
I check
Turn 3 (no flush draw still)
CO checks
I bet 1200
BB folds
CO calls
River 4
CO goes all in with remaining 4000 chips
I think about it for a long time - and then fold. I should have called. I had him on J10 - and after he said he didn't have the king - so it was probably down to the Jack's kicker. I had been keeping out of trouble all night - and I should have changed gears and gone for the kill.
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This all set me up for hand 2 a little while later. Blinds still 300/600
I'm in the BB with 6  2   UTG folds, new guy to the table with a reasonable stack calls. SB calls. I have 4000 left. I check.
Flop 6  2 8
Nasty... SB checks. I bet 1200. New guy calls. SB folds.
Turn 5 
I check (can I really do anything else?)
He bets 1000
I call
River 4
I check, he bets 2000 (which is pretty much me all in)
I fold.
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The first fold I think was a bad one - I should have called, doubled up and been in a good position to attack the final table. The second was just an agonising hand that was never going to give me any peace.
Any thoughts?
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Posted Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:48 am GMT by Idaho
Whoa! One at a time! Form an orderly queue
Posted Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:37 am GMT by suitedaces84
I bet the flop on hand 1. It's a tough situation on the river.
You played hand 2 very poorly, IMO. Why can't you go all-in on the turn? It's only about a pot size bet and I can't think of many hands that have you beat or would have good odds to draw out on you. I can think of a ton of worse hands that would call. I'm pretty sure you ended up folding to a busted K or A high flush draw. Bet more on the flop and push on the turn.
Posted Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:04 am GMT by Muck
| Idaho wrote: |
Turn 5
I check (can I really do anything else?)
He bets 1000
I call
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I’m sorry but I really don’t like this check call.
If you think you’re ahead bet out (I’d move all-in).
If you think you’re behind to a made flush it can’t be worth the call hoping for a 6 or 2.
Judging from you’re situation (stack size, heads up, odds of him holding 2 clubs and the proceeding betting pattern) I’d go for it and just accept it if I ran into a made flush.
Posted Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:30 pm GMT by Idaho
| suitedaces84 wrote: | I bet the flop on hand 1. It's a tough situation on the river.
You played hand 2 very poorly, IMO. Why can't you go all-in on the turn? It's only about a pot size bet and I can't think of many hands that have you beat or would have good odds to draw out on you. I can think of a ton of worse hands that would call. I'm pretty sure you ended up folding to a busted K or A high flush draw. Bet more on the flop and push on the turn. |
I was being overcautious on both I think. Playing live isn't like playing online - you can't just load up another game and start again - you have to drive 20 miles back home! Plus the fact you have come all this way and sat down playing cards for 3 hours!
It's a rebuy - and weathering the storm with the rebuys is hard going when the cards aren't coming. Your bluffs get called by loose players who are happy to buy back - and if you simply aren't getting the hands to show you screw down your game. Alas this means that when, after the freezeout, you get some tough calls, the passivity has set in. In this case I was playing far too meek. I was scared of getting those chips out - which is crazy.
Thanks for the input fellas 
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