Terrbile beats or bad moves? |
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Posted Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:40 pm GMT by adam
Its been one of those days, down over $1000 (more than half of my earnings on the week).
Ok heres the first hand.
***** Hand History for Game 2416250077 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 09, 21:41:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 48776 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: YoYoMa13 ( $687.70 )
Seat 2: mfnuts101 ( $195.05 )
Seat 3: zashkal ( $608.15 )
Seat 5: Barney_R ( $393 )
Seat 4: Spiced_Capt ( $376 )
mfnuts101 posts small blind $2.
zashkal posts big blind $4.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Barney_R  
Spiced_Capt folds.
Barney_R raises $12. - too small maybe, but i wanted some action
YoYoMa13 folds.
mfnuts101 folds.
zashkal calls $8. - im thinking a reasonable ace, good connectors or small pp
** Dealing Flop **   
zashkal checks.
Barney_R bets $15.
zashkal raises $35. - now im thinking an eight or something like 99/TT
Barney_R raises $60. - not enough? right now i feel ahead and not under threat, if an ace comes off i am able to fold
zashkal calls $40.
** Dealing Turn ** 
zashkal checks. - nice trap... :/
Barney_R bets $150. - was there any other move?
zashkal is all-In.
Barney_R is all-In. - can i get away at this point?
** Dealing River ** 
Barney_R shows a pair of kings.
zashkal shows   three of a kind, queens.
zashkal wins $215.15 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, queens.
zashkal wins $786 from the main pot with three of a kind, queens.
YUCK!
Next... this is just a plain bad beat but im curious who would call this
***** Hand History for Game 2416083876 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 09, 20:59:11 EDT 2005
Table Table 55204 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: poke777 ( $156.20 )
Seat 4: Barney_R ( $744.50 )
Seat 2: moneymkr68 ( $0 )
Seat 6: MighyFreak ( $206.90 ) - has lost a few big pots and i think hes tilting
Seat 3: adampsu ( $178.20 )
Seat 5: PeeGee999 ( $415.30 )
adampsu posts small blind $2.
Barney_R posts big blind $4.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Barney_R 
PeeGee999 folds.
MighyFreak calls $4.
poke777 folds.
adampsu calls $2.
Barney_R checks.
** Dealing Flop **  
adampsu checks.
Barney_R bets $10.
MighyFreak is all-In. - couldnt belive he'd overbet the straight, maybe trip threes but i doubt it
adampsu folds.
Barney_R calls $192.90.
** Dealing Turn ** 
** Dealing River **  - ouch
Barney_R shows two pairs, fours and twos.
MighyFreak shows   three of a kind, sevens.
MighyFreak wins $415.80 from the main pot with three of a kind, sevens.
Third hand...
***** Hand History for Game 2412607297 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 09, 04:37:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 55084 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: philemonwnl ( $206.20 )
Seat 3: StyYng ( $127.85 )
Seat 4: fucthepopo ( $308 )
Seat 5: ostra66 ( $111.15 )
Seat 6: MrSmith49 ( $348.25 )
Seat 2: Barney_R ( $263.20 )
ostra66 posts small blind $1.
philemonwnl posts big blind $2.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Barney_R 
Barney_R raises $7. - ok maybe thats a bad raise, but i like playing PP's , and i also dont like limping in
fucthepopo folds.
ostra66 folds.
philemonwnl raises $12. - i put him on a big pair straight away
Barney_R calls $7. - i call looking to bust him with trips if poss
** Dealing Flop **   
philemonwnl checks.
Barney_R bets $10. - fishing
philemonwnl raises $25. - as i expected, a big pair
Barney_R raises $35. - pot building
philemonwnl calls $20.
** Dealing Turn **
philemonwnl checks.
Barney_R bets $60.
philemonwnl is all-In.
Barney_R calls $87.20.
** Dealing River **
Barney_R shows three of a kind, fours.
philemonwnl shows   a straight, ace to five.
philemonwnl wins $411.40 from the main pot with a straight, ace to five.
Was i even right to be in in this pot? Should i have gotten the money in earlyer? i asume it would have made no difference in this instance as he was unlikely to drop his aces but from an EV perspective...
Finaly, the only 'good beat' of the day. Is there any way to get away from this, or is the old maxim correct?
***** Hand History for Game 2415823560 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 09, 19:45:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 55204 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: poke777 ( $207 )
Seat 2: Maskinen_ ( $403.20 )
Seat 3: chopswamp ( $201.30 )
Seat 6: chabrol ( $1117.24 )
Seat 4: Barney_R ( $326.60 )
Seat 5: hawkswarm ( $483.80 )
chopswamp posts small blind $2.
Barney_R posts big blind $4.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Barney_R  
hawkswarm folds.
chabrol raises $14. - his standard raise
poke777 folds.
Maskinen_ folds.
chopswamp folds.
Barney_R calls $10. - i should have re-raised for more info, right?
** Dealing Flop **  
Barney_R bets $15.
chabrol raises $50. - what hand should i be thinking here? i was thinking AK/AQ
Barney_R raises $110. - should i have capped?
chabrol raises $225. - now im worried
Barney_R is all-In. - but i go with it anyway, could i have gotten away here?
chabrol calls $37.60.
** Dealing Turn ** 
** Dealing River **
chabrol shows  three of a kind, aces.
Barney_R doesn't show three of a kind, jacks.
chabrol wins $653.20 from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.
Thoughts please...
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Posted Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:20 am GMT by howzit
one hand a time please in the future.
hand #1. preflop is fine. if villain is pretty straightforward and not too rocky I'll call flop and look to raise on the turn. The flop raise is weak. Very weak. If you're going to bet to win, bet bigger so you'll get him stuck drawing ultra thin. I don't like letting my opponent get away this easily by three betting big and him folding 99-JJ easily here. So I call and give him rope.
Once he checks the turn on a blank after a flop check-raise, i'm checking behind. Question is why would he check there when there was no draw on the flop? Looks like the queen froze him or made his hand. check behind and keep the pot at a controllable size. I also call a reasonable bet on the river.
When faced w/a double check-raise I'd have to guess one pair is no good against an average player. However, I've done this move w/a busted straight draw very occassionally against thinking players.
Hand #2
another fish that got away. . . .
Hand #3
aces should've made $25 to go or limp call behind preflop. I don't know how the money isn't going in on the flop or turn. You got him to committ w/only six outs so I like it. After that you have to fade a few cards.
Hand #4
don't rereaise preflop, i don't want to play a bloated pot w/JJ OOP. W/ those stack sizes, my money is in the pot.
But what's up w/the min-raise? Isn't there enough draws and made hands out there? Since you're ahead of AK/AQ only i don't see a problem w/check-raising all in on the turn. Once again, my money is in the middle w/stacks under a 100BBs
Seems like you raise too light for my taste.
Posted Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:30 am GMT by 1988 TR
I agree that your raises are too weak.
Most of those hand are going to be hard to get away from in any case.
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