How do you deal with a player like this? |
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Posted Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:38 am GMT by laker88116
How do you deal with someone that is very quick to call and raise without anything at all. They bluff all the time and it makes it hard when to decide when to call. Any help?
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Posted Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:48 am GMT by starfishblue
I'm a newb but I want to try with what i know so far.
I suppose you must anticipate that he will bet/raise ~ so if he is near your left, you can check-raise with a great hand.
Play more aggressively with your good hands and be prepared to fold your marginal hands. Um... i'm sure more guys can add more stuff to this.
Posted Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:44 am GMT by Loonbat
I think you've nailed it, Starfish. When you play your top hands hard, it will make him pay for his maniacal ways.
Posted Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:39 am GMT by Soup_dog
Yep. Tighten up your starting hands a bunch. Don't bluff. And when you catch a monster, beat him into submission.
Posted Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:26 am GMT by snoogins47
| laker88116 wrote: | | How do you deal with someone that is very quick to call and raise without anything at all. They bluff all the time and it makes it hard when to decide when to call. Any help? |
He often has nothing. The counter to this is to have something. Something beats nothing in showdowns. So show down something, and then when they show down nothing, you win.
Posted Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:39 am GMT by supafrey
you're going to have to breakdown that a little clearer, snoo.
also, what happens if i have something, but his nothing is really a pretty good something too?
Posted Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:53 am GMT by Soup_dog
If his something is something then it wasnt nothing. So the rule something beats nothing doesnt apply. In this case it depends on whose something beats the other something... This will happen at times. But for an extremely loose player usually your something will beat his nothing and you will win somehing. 
Posted Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:28 am GMT by Loonbat
| snoogins47 wrote: |
Something beats nothing in showdowns. |
I think this is one of the chapter titles in "Poker for Dummies" ...
Posted Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:16 am GMT by Silhouette
When I find a monkey like this, I usually slow play him. I'll check to him, knowing he's going to bet or raise, then reraise. Calls usually scare these guys more than reraises, so calling is the last resort.
Posted Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:32 am GMT by suitedaces84
I ran into one of these yesterday at a home game. Its was a $.5/1 NL cash game. Every hand he would make it $4 or $5 preflop. I bought in for a measly $40. Ten orbits and no cards later I was down to $25.
I got AQs in the BB. It folded to him on the button and he made it $4. The SB folded so I went all in for another $21. He thought about it for two minutes and called with J7o. Classic. 
The moral of the story: don't be afaird to play back at these guys. They usually don't have anything. Make sure you give them a chance to do something stupid because they probably will.
Posted Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:00 am GMT by mugged_off
| suitedaces84 wrote: | I ran into one of these yesterday at a home game. Its was a $.5/1 NL cash game. Every hand he would make it $4 or $5 preflop. I bought in for a measly $40. Ten orbits and no cards later I was down to $25.
I got AQs in the BB. It folded to him on the button and he made it $4. The SB folded so I went all in for another $21. He thought about it for two minutes and called with J7o. Classic.
The moral of the story: don't be afaird to play back at these guys. They usually don't have anything. Make sure you give them a chance to do something stupid because they probably will. |
Nice :D .
I was on poker stars the other day and some maniac had $500 on a 0.5/0.10 NL table and was going all in with practically every hand. Looks like he was a decent higher stakes player who was just having a laugh. Anyway, the waiting list for the table was up to 15+ people.
I managed to get on towards the end, waited for awhile then went all ($10) in with JJ, got beaten by his Q2o !!. I reloaded played tight and won a few more hands, then AKs comes along, he's UTG and all in straight away, I quickly call, and double up my $34 when nothing comes on the board for either of us.
Great fun, he pissed off about 5 minutes after that.
Posted Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:18 pm GMT by 1988 TR
Harrington writes in his Volume I book that if players are aggressive, you need to tighten up - But with hands you may not usually be agressive with (Like KQ) you need to raise the agressive players with.
If players are tight, then you become the aggressor.
Posted Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:52 pm GMT by howzit
last night i faced a total nightmare.
guys calling my preflop/flop bets and raises and then just open pushing. Zero poker, just call my bet, open push. It caused a big head ache for me. I had to lay down overpairs and big draws a few times because of the bad odds. I also have difficulty when i good aggressive player reraises me preflop and keeps coming over the top.
I also don't adhere to the loose table/tighten up, tight table loosen up theorem. I feel like there's a lot of money to be picked off in a loose table w/position and aggression while in a tight table, you can nut peddle to hte weird draws cheaply to stack off somebody's AA or flopped top pair.
But if you want to screw w/loose aggressive player, buy in short, sit on his immediate left, wait for an equitable preflop hand. Reraise preflop and just pot-stick yourself. He's raising so much junk preflop that he'll either fold or get stuck calling your hand because of hte cheap price.
Posted Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:06 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Hod do you handle a guy like that? That's easy,,,make a noter of his name and playing style. Be sure after this info to put in big large letters " FISH". That style of play will set him up for a large loss of money if you know how to play him right. Like most people here will tell you play him only with top hands and tightly.
Posted Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:12 pm GMT by Soup_dog
| howzit wrote: | last night i faced a total nightmare.
guys calling my preflop/flop bets and raises and then just open pushing. Zero poker, just call my bet, open push. It caused a big head ache for me. I had to lay down overpairs and big draws a few times because of the bad odds. I also have difficulty when i good aggressive player reraises me preflop and keeps coming over the top.
I also don't adhere to the loose table/tighten up, tight table loosen up theorem. I feel like there's a lot of money to be picked off in a loose table w/position and aggression while in a tight table, you can nut peddle to hte weird draws cheaply to stack off somebody's AA or flopped top pair.
But if you want to screw w/loose aggressive player, buy in short, sit on his immediate left, wait for an equitable preflop hand. Reraise preflop and just pot-stick yourself. He's raising so much junk preflop that he'll either fold or get stuck calling your hand because of hte cheap price. |
This is how I have been making my money lately. I have been buying in with half a stack and waiting for a big hand to come along and I push. After two or three big wins then I can bully the table around.
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