Posted Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:08 am GMT by Rounder Wannabe
1-2 NL live
me: ~100 bucks
player A ~200 bucks
sb ~ 100 bucks
4 limpers around to me
I limp in with 10-J spades
player A raises to 5
fold around to SB who makes it 12 to go.
UTG, me and player A call.
FLOP: K- 10 - J (two diamonds)
SB checks to me, I push all in to presumably defend against both draws.
Player A goes over the top $140
SB calls. (around 300 in the pot)
SB shows Big Slick 2 diamonds (Flush/Royal flush/straight draw)
Player A shows K-Q Offsuit (straight draw)
Me: two pair:
Turn: 6 spade
River: 6 club
runner runner once again does me in. I miss the boat and runner runner flush. big slick takes down a huge pot aand i walk away with a migraine.
Did i play this wrong? should i have limp raised? opened with a raise? FOLDED? seems like it was a coin flip. its poker but the same thing that makes me hate it, is the same thing that makes me love it.
pls critique
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Posted Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:48 am GMT by ScanX
| Rounder Wannabe wrote: | 1-2 NL live
me: ~100 bucks
player A ~200 bucks
sb ~ 100 bucks
4 limpers around to me
I limp in with 10-J spades
player A raises to 5
fold around to SB who makes it 12 to go.
UTG, me and player A call.
FLOP: K- 10 - J (two diamonds)
SB checks to me, I push all in to presumably defend against both draws.
Player A goes over the top $140
SB calls. (around 300 in the pot)
SB shows Big Slick 2 diamonds (Flush/Royal flush/straight draw)
Player A shows K-Q Offsuit (straight draw)
Me: two pair:
Turn: 6 spade
River: 6 club
runner runner once again does me in. I miss the boat and runner runner flush. big slick takes down a huge pot aand i walk away with a migraine.
Did i play this wrong? should i have limp raised? opened with a raise? FOLDED? seems like it was a coin flip. its poker but the same thing that makes me hate it, is the same thing that makes me love it.
pls critique |
"I put all my money in the pot when I was a favourite, did I play this wrong ?"
raising with JTs with 4 limpers before you ? not really
moreover AK wont fold and KQ prolly wont either.
I would check-raise the flop but I doubt it changes anything.
Posted Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:32 am GMT by TheSalche
agreed, played finely, but you were likely going to get 'sucked out' on there ... 3 aces + 1 king + 3 queens + 4 9's + (9 - 1 ace - 1 queen - 1 nine = 6) diamonds for a total of 17 outs between them (14 if i guessed the suits on the flop wrong) ... they'd have more than a 50% chance of winning it between them
Posted Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:54 am GMT by Lime Lounger
| Quote: | player A raises to 5
fold around to SB who makes it 12 to go.
UTG, me and player A call. |
There's your mistake. Not too sure what position you were in but in any case calling a raise and a reraise with TJ not a great idea imo. Post flop cards were not necessarily good for you either considering you could have been up against AQ or trips for that matter. Post flop play of course is debatable, but the post flop play did not get you into trouble, it was the play before the flop.
Posted Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:22 am GMT by Rounder Wannabe
| Lime Lounger wrote: | | Quote: | player A raises to 5
fold around to SB who makes it 12 to go.
UTG, me and player A call. |
There's your mistake. Not too sure what position you were in but in any case calling a raise and a reraise with TJ not a great idea imo. Post flop cards were not necessarily good for you either considering you could have been up against AQ or trips for that matter. Post flop play of course is debatable, but the post flop play did not get you into trouble, it was the play before the flop. |
Interesting.. should I have threw in a raise when it came around to me the first time to see where i was at? (my position was 4-5 players after UTG.. player A was one before the button i believe...) I see your point that I probably should not have called the re-raise, but my thoughts at that time were that both UTG and player A were telegraphing their intentions to call... my call would have given me decent odds to chase a flush if i hit a 4 flush on the flop (i never chase if i dont hit a 4draw on the flop with suited/non suited connectors)...but in any case, i thought the odds would be there.
If either UTG or player A reraised then i would have been done with the hand.
If PLayer A reraised after my call.. i would have been done with the hand.
But two pair hit. My outs didn't... but thats poker for ya.
Posted Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:13 am GMT by Lime Lounger
Even if you thought you were getting good implied odds to chase a flush (even though i wouldn't say trying to chase a flush without even seeing a flop yet is a good idea), you would most likely be drawing to the 2nd best flush and end up losing a lot of money. I like trying to limp to see the flop but once the raises start coming it's time to give it up.
You made a move with the best hand after the flop but i think you were lucky (you could have easily been up against it). You definitely got screwed by the poker gods from there. Ah, poker.
Posted Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:12 am GMT by Loonbat
I agree with Lime ... I wouldn't have been in the hand after a raise and reraise preflop.
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