Four 6's is a lock....right? |
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Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:57 pm GMT by bpquinn
I just finish up a four table max tournament on paradise poker.com and I decide that I am going to go against my better judgement and sit in on a 50$ no limit table. (For those that don't know, $50 max buy in, .50/1.00 blinds, table stakes). I play tight for about 20 hands, and have $48 dollars in front of me. I realized I wasn't having any fun, so I was just about to close up and log off, when I get dealt two sixes. Not a great hand, but just enough to hopefully flop a set.
I was on button, got quite a few callers, so I call and it goes through the blinds. Flop comes down K, 6, K, giving me the boat. Check comes to me, so I check , hoping to trap someone who may catch a hand on the turn. There was no action, turn comes down...its a 6. Now I am sitting with four sixes, and can't even believe it. I have hit four of a kind before, but only after flopping a set and being all in. It comes around and I (foolishly?) check again. Flop comes in, 5 , no help. Finally, the big blind opens for $4.50, I assume he has a king for the boat, and (aggressively) raise to 15. He goes over the top on me to 21, then I go all in, he calls. At this point I am practically doubled over with laughter, all the while thinking "This knucklehead has no Idea what he is up against."
His cards get turned over, wouldn't you know it, KK, to make four kings  .
If anyone can calculate the odds of having two four of a kinds at a ten person table, I would like to know them, because I am still on tilt and it has been about a week.
I know there are worse beats out there, I'm sure somewhere someone has gotten their straight flush ripped by a royal, but that was the worst that I have ever seen, and it just so happened to me.
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Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:19 pm GMT by ballbp
That is truly a bad beat. Even if you would have put him all-in after the flop he had you but I wouldn't have put him on that hand. Like you said, that type of beat happens a good bit but when you flop a set it's easy to be blinded by it. And when you have quads, it's very easy to think you have the best hand. Don't sweat it too much, you'll get someone the same way one day.
Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:55 pm GMT by Dave B
That hand would be worth over $35,000 and the casino I play at right now. Many places have bad beat jackpots where if you lose a very strong hand you get paid bigtime.
Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:03 pm GMT by ballbp
Which hands are considered ones that get the "bad beat pot" Dave? Is it quads and higher or do they consider boats getting beat by quads a bad beat?
Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:44 pm GMT by saper88aa
Quad 6's were a lock for me. Of corse there wernt 2 paired over cards on the table 
Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:00 pm GMT by Dave B
You need to have As full 10s or better and get beat. You cannot both have a boat and you have to use both cards in your hand. The loser of the hand gets 50% of the jackpot, the winner gets 25% and the rest of the table splits the other 25%.
I was one card away from 25% of 120K once and have probably seen at the casino when 10 jackpots hit. I try to get to the table if they do, usually at least one person will leave w/ his cash, the others play pretty crazy w/ their new wealth.
I just checked, the jackpot is up to $75K again....i may have to head out again!
Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:21 pm GMT by ORGrinder
the jackpot is progressive i take it... is it like some percentage of the rake or something?
Posted Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:37 pm GMT by Dave B
Yes-at this place that identify one or two tables and all the rake from those tables goes to the jackpot.
Tournaments and 15/30 are not eligible (no rake).
Posted Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:04 am GMT by JimTheBullet
Getting back to the original post - that beat was very tough. At the flop I would have been mildly (but not very) worried about a mug being in the hand with K6 to out boat me but when the fourth 6 dropped, well I think that would have cleaned anybody out. If you had bet the flop you would have got raised, then you probably would have ended up all in earlier and at least you would have seen it coming but the end result would have been the same.
I did once beat somebody with 8888 against 6666 but that was at Omaha so it doesn't really count here. I got the quads on the flop, he made a boat, we both checked and somebody else bet, he raised the maximum (pot limit), I came over the top for the maximum and we were all in before the turn so he at least knew before he hit his quads that it wasn't good enough.
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