1-2NL live: made hand w/a redraw against tilty bluffer |
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Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:59 am GMT by howzit
1-2NL live
Me: $1200
Tilty: $200ish
ok, i hit a double gutter on a river about an hour ago against this guy and he is on monkey tilt. He's on his fourth buy-in and he also is very bad and bluffs too much.
maybe one limper and folded to him on button, he makes it $20. I call in the blinds w/K  Q One more caller.
Flop: ($60) K  7 3
checked to tiltty, he bets $35 which is more than his usual continuation bet. It felt like "I don't have kings beat" kind of bet.
Me?
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Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:07 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| howzit wrote: | 1-2NL live
Me: $1200
Tilty: $200ish
ok, i hit a double gutter on a river about an hour ago against this guy and he is on monkey tilt. He's on his fourth buy-in and he also is very bad and bluffs too much.
maybe one limper and folded to him on button, he makes it $20. I call in the blinds w/K Q One more caller.
Flop: ($60) K 7 3
checked to tiltty, he bets $35 which is more than his usual continuation bet. It felt like "I don't have kings beat" kind of bet.
Me? |
Me: $1200 - I'm still admiring that. Nice work! :D
Definitely a hand you could just call to entice another bluff on the turn - Your hand is pretty strong with good back up. If he is holding something like 1010 without a spade, he only has 1 out.
Another option would be min-raise on the flop. I just don't know if I would want to risk letting the <*>)))>< off the hook just yet.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:09 pm GMT by Loonbat
Smooth-call. I love this hand and had it in a tourney last night. A monster draw and TPGK. You're not really fearful of the undercards on the board, or of the str8. The only overcard you fear is an ace (not spades). Smoke him on the turn.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:12 pm GMT by screwthepooch
My one question ...Is there still a 3rd player in at this point who checked to Tilty?
I posted this before 1988's response...which I agree with...I'm greedy and am assuming I've got this guy bent over and am about to treat him to a night in prison. I like the idea of milking him for all he's got....
Sorry for the terrible imagery.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:24 pm GMT by howzit
ok, i smooth called, limp/caller folds, and the turn in as turd.
what now?
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:35 pm GMT by Soup_dog
check/raise putting him all-in is what I would do.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:45 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| howzit wrote: | ok, i smooth called, limp/caller folds, and the turn in as turd.
what now? |
I don't like checking. I would bet 40 to see where you are at.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:48 pm GMT by Soup_dog
| 1988 TR wrote: | | howzit wrote: | ok, i smooth called, limp/caller folds, and the turn in as turd.
what now? |
I don't like checking. I would bet 40 to see where you are at. |
Well, if he is on tilt and trying to bluff I would expect him to make a big push now since a garbage card came on the turn. Wouldn't leading out with a bet make him lay it down?
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:12 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Soup_dog wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | | howzit wrote: | ok, i smooth called, limp/caller folds, and the turn in as turd.
what now? |
I don't like checking. I would bet 40 to see where you are at. |
Well, if he is on tilt and trying to bluff I would expect him to make a big push now since a garbage card came on the turn. Wouldn't leading out with a bet make him lay it down? |
Depends what he has of course...
He might also be on a draw where he says, if I am going to call 40, I just might as well push now.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:41 pm GMT by howzit
i knew i had the best hand, i think he knew i had hte best hand. I wanted to plant a seed of doubt that I was still drawing to spades so i open pushed.
He didn't like that. . .he hemmed and hawed and mucked and then blew off some more money. I think check-calling and then pushing a blank river will get called a lot of times IMO. but that depends on the river cooperating w/me.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:47 pm GMT by Loonbat
Agreed - that's why the check, check on the turn works in this case.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:12 pm GMT by 1988 TR
I also like the approach of a bet that is not all in, because it ties him that much more to the pot. If he has much of anything, he will call the 40 bet on the turn, setting him up for an all in on the river.
Checking on the turn doesn't commit him anymore to the pot & he can still make the same fold he did on the turn if he doesn't improve.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:54 pm GMT by Soup_dog
| 1988 TR wrote: | I also like the approach of a bet that is not all in, because it ties him that much more to the pot. If he has much of anything, he will call the 40 bet on the turn, setting him up for an all in on the river.
Checking on the turn doesn't commit him anymore to the pot & he can still make the same fold he did on the turn if he doesn't improve. |
Sure, I can see that. But I wouldn't think your betting into the pot would make him anymore committed. I think either method will work 50% depending entirely on the other player. More of a table read kind of thing.
Posted Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:27 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Soup_dog wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | I also like the approach of a bet that is not all in, because it ties him that much more to the pot. If he has much of anything, he will call the 40 bet on the turn, setting him up for an all in on the river.
Checking on the turn doesn't commit him anymore to the pot & he can still make the same fold he did on the turn if he doesn't improve. |
Sure, I can see that. But I wouldn't think your betting into the pot would make him anymore committed. I think either method will work 50% depending entirely on the other player. More of a table read kind of thing. |
I guess I mean if he calls he is more comitted and then has less to call on an all in bet on the river.
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