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texas hold em... kicker cards and a joint best hand



Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:23 pm GMT by mcdazza
only just started playing hold em texas poker.. but come across a rule me and my mates cant quite work out.

I understand the kicker card, if two players have joint winning hand.

i also understand if in the following situation:

community card: K, 7, 7, 3, 5
Player 1: 5, Q
Player 2: 5, 10

then the pot would be split, both players using the K as the high card.

what happens in the situation where both have a pair? i.e.

community card: K, 8, 7, 3, 5
Player 1: 5, Q
Player 2: 5, 10

would both players use the K again, and therefore split the pot... or would player 1 win with the high of Queen??

Anybody help?


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Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:31 pm GMT by Fat Tony
community card: K, 8, 7, 3, 5
Player 1: 5, Q
Player 2: 5, 10


player 1's hand would be: 5 5 K Q 8

player 2's hand would be:5 5 K 10 8

both have a pair and top kicker, player 1 wins as his second kicker is better.




community card: K, 7, 7, 3, 5
Player 1: 5, Q
Player 2: 5, 10


in this example you are correct in calling it a split pot as both players hands would be 7 7 5 5 K



Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:31 pm GMT by docsthaname
Best 5 cards ALWAYS play. So yeah, in first situation, both would have 2 pair, 5's and 7's, with king kicker.

In second, Player 1 would have 5, 5, K, Q, 8. Player 2 would have 5, 5, K, 10, 8. So player 1 would have the better hand, because his Q kicker would play. Make sense?



Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:32 pm GMT by docsthaname
Bah, tony sniped me!


Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:33 pm GMT by mcdazza
community card: K, 8, 7, 3, 5
Player 1: 5, 3
Player 2: 5, 2


and in the above situation, you would split the pot?



Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:35 pm GMT by Fat Tony
mcdazza wrote:
community card: K, 8, 7, 3, 5
Player 1: 5, 3
Player 2: 5, 2


and in the above situation, you would split the pot?


no, player 1 has two pair 5 5 3 3 K

player 2 only has one pair 5 5 K 8 7

so player 1 wins.



Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:37 pm GMT by mcdazza
lol, DOH. bad example. hahaha

community card: K, 8, 7, 4, 5
Player 1: 5, 3
Player 2: 5, 2



Posted Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:34 pm GMT by Skribbles
mcdazza wrote:
lol, DOH. bad example. hahaha

community card: K, 8, 7, 4, 5
Player 1: 5, 3
Player 2: 5, 2


Best 5 cards.

K8755

Split pot.



Posted Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:54 am GMT by Muck
Mcdazza can I suggest you:

Read this explanation of how each players best hand is found

And

Try some example using this to see if you understand it



Posted Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:13 am GMT by mcdazza
cheers for all ya help guys.. yeh it was just if both players had a pair.. i was just getting a little confused, but i understand fully now. lol, think i was just having a bad day yesterday. Ive only ever played on the computer, and yesterday started to teach my mates hosw to play and had a big game last night.. but then started getting confused. lol.

Anyway, cheers again guys. excellent forum.



Posted Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:02 am GMT by Idaho
It takes a while playing live to be confident of all the rules. It takes odd situations coming up a couple of times for you to get them ironed out.





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