Posted Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:37 pm GMT by MC Remix
Situation: Home Game, No-Limit Hold 'em $5 buy in
The very first hand was a large pot and I held pocket rockets and the community cards brought a pair of 3s. 4 of the 5 were spades though and I worried about 3 of a kind or a flush. The only opponent to see the showdown with me flipped up a 4 and a 6 (of spades). He called a pair of 3s and being excited about my big win, i didnt check for a flush (truly, I didnt notice the spades in his hand). I had already begun collecting my chips and enjoying post-hand chat when someone mentioned spades and he realized he should have won. We didnt know what to do, but being a nice guy I split the pot with him.
So the question: What should have happened?
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Posted Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:44 pm GMT by mikenike
who was dealing... if he mucked his hand the pot is yours.. but if he didnt and you picked up the chips.. its his
Posted Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:44 pm GMT by Geno
The cards always do the talking regardless of what is declared (unless you have a home rule that states otherwise) and so your buddy wins the whole pot I'm afraid 
Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:10 am GMT by supafrey
I ditto Geno's comment. Unless house rules dictate otherwise, usually the cards speak for themselves.
Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:07 am GMT by tame_deuces
I agree with what the others said, also about the mucking part, _but_ in homegames you would usually cut some slack towards beginning poker players (not seeing a flush qualifies). Also it is a good idea if the dealer checks the hands if you got new or inexperienced players at the table.
Posted Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:03 am GMT by bocephus
We always tell everyone before we start that the cards speak for themselves. That way everyone who hasn't played with us before knows and there is no argument. If there is a problem the host and only the host makes the final decision. We also explain when blinds are raised and blah blah blah. Lastley we ask if there are any questions. Never had any problems.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:35 pm GMT by galderon
| bocephus wrote: | | We always tell everyone before we start that the cards speak for themselves. |
The other half of "card's speak for themselves" is "protect your hand". It's each player's responsibilty to not allow his hand to get mucked, and to voice a complaint if there's an error on who's getting awarded the pot. Technically, if an error isn't noticed until long after a pot was awarded, you're out of luck.
In your case, you said the error was caught in the post-hand chat. I can't say for certain (since I wasn't there), but this sounds like a reasonable timeframe to correct the error. The entire pot should have gone to the flush.
This is just how I do it, it's up to each home game to come up with house rules to resolve stuff like this.
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