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Too agressive ?



Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:06 pm GMT by mugged_off
Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/08/21 -
13:56:53 (ET)
Table 'Chort II' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Chipdaddddy ($28.95 in chips)
Seat 2: zadman4 ($7.90 in chips)
Seat 3: XXX ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 4: 9|$JeFF$|9 ($2.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Doug12 ($8.50 in chips)
Seat 6: RabbitHand ($25.40 in chips)
Seat 7: ryan11115 ($17.15 in chips)
Seat 8: tighter1 ($11.35 in chips)
Seat 9: Gerinald ($20.80 in chips)
RabbitHand: posts small blind $0.10
ryan11115: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to XXX King of DiamondsJack of Clubs
tighter1: folds
Gerinald: folds
Chipdaddddy: raises $1 to $1.25
zadman4: folds
XXX: calls $1.25
9|$JeFF$|9: folds
Doug12: folds
RabbitHand: folds
ryan11115: folds
*** FLOP *** Jack of HeartsSix of HeartsKing of Clubs
Chipdaddddy: bets $2
XXX: raises $20.30 to $22.30 and is all-in
Chipdaddddy: calls $20.30
*** TURN *** Jack of HeartsSix of HeartsKing of Clubs Six of Spades
*** RIVER *** Jack of HeartsSix of HeartsKing of ClubsSix of Spades Eight of Diamonds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Chipdaddddy: shows Ace of SpadesAce of Diamonds (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
XXX: mucks hand
Chipdaddddy collected $45.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $47.45 | Rake $2.35
Board Jack of HeartsSix of HeartsKing of ClubsSix of SpadesEight of Diamonds
Seat 1: Chipdaddddy showed Ace of SpadesAce of Diamonds and won ($45.10) with two pair, Aces and
Sixes
Seat 2: zadman4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: XXX mucked King of DiamondsJack of Clubs
Seat 4: 9|$JeFF$|9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Doug12 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: RabbitHand (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: ryan11115 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: tighter1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Gerinald folded before Flop (didn't bet)


I put villain on either AA, AK. He was agressive and I thought there was a big chance of him calling my all in.


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Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:16 pm GMT by age_of_sages
You read him right and got his chips in the middle, what more could you do? The fact that you got outdrawn sucks, but that's poker.


Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:19 pm GMT by bluef0x
I don't really get the preflop call with K-Jo.. it will get you in trouble too often if you don't know how to play postflop. and going all-in here cost you some money even though it should have net you a lot because it was such a drastic overbet.

Next time: Fold preflop (unless you are really LAG and a good postflop player)

and

DONT GO ALLIN. there are many ways to play poker and they don't all revolve around "hey i hit something" and clicking the allin button.



Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:23 pm GMT by mugged_off
bluef0x wrote:
I don't really get the preflop call with K-Jo.. it will get you in trouble too often if you don't know how to play postflop. and going all-in here cost you some money even though it should have net you a lot because it was such a drastic overbet.

Next time: Fold preflop (unless you are really LAG and a good postflop player)

and

DONT GO ALLIN. there are many ways to play poker and they don't all revolve around "hey i hit something" and clicking the allin button.


What does LAG mean ??

Yeah I know there are many ways to play poker that don't involve all in. I thought I would try and get the most out of him as possible.



Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:25 pm GMT by bluef0x
Getting the most would have been betting about 3/4ths to Pot size bet. Going all-in is only going to scare away the hands you want to pay you off.


LAG means Loose-Aggressive, it's where you play a lot of hands and play them aggressivley... which can really hurt you if you aren't a good post-flop player.



Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:55 pm GMT by suitedaces84
I don't like the call preflop. The issue is not that you're likely behind, although you are likely behind. The problem is that there are not a lot of boards that you're going to like. Any flop that hits you is likely going to hit your oppoent harder.


The all-in on the flop is fine. There are a ton of turns that will kill the action. It's also very likely that villian caught a nice piece of the flop too. If he has AA he'll have a hard time folding, if he has AK he got what he wanted on the flop, if he has QQ you're not going to get much anyway and if he has KK that just sucks.



Posted Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:58 pm GMT by bluef0x
I don't like the all-in.. unless you know your opponent very well and he sees it as a bluff, hes going to dump his hand. I just think you were almost lucky in that he had AA and wasn't going to drop it. AA and AK call, in which you are ahead. KK, JJ, 66 call in which you are behind. anything else and they fold... I try to bet 3/4ths of the pot and extract the most.


Posted Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:44 am GMT by 1988 TR
I agree with Blue here.

Was a loose call pre flop that can get you in trouble.

You hit a miracle flop & then WAY overbet it - You need to try & get more out of this hand.

Once you actually get a caller - That is great - Just got unlucky after that.



Posted Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:22 am GMT by mugged_off
Thanks folks.


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