Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:31 pm GMT by 1988 TR
FullTiltPoker Game #196682302: Table Polaris (6 max) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:02:53 ET - 2005/08/25
Seat 1: 1988 TR ($1,116)
Seat 2: tjb007 ($940)
Seat 3: Krazie79 ($812.15)
Seat 4: dvelevis ($701)
Seat 5: flip123077 ($1,074.50)
Seat 6: POKER D-N-A ($764.25)
Krazie79 posts the small blind of $5
dvelevis posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 1988 TR  
POKER D-N-A folds
1988 TR raises to $35
tjb007 raises to $60
Krazie79 folds
dvelevis folds
1988 TR calls $25
*** FLOP ***   
1988 TR checks
tjb007 bets $135
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Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:43 pm GMT by Fat Tony
i think you only have two options here.......push or fold. i'm leaning towards option #2. theres too many possible hands that beat you to be confident in a push being successful.
Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:53 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Smells like KK or AA.
Holding overpair vs preflop raiser who bets a flop not likely to have helped anyone. One of the more intense situations to be in NL.
I'd need too know _something_ dirty (lag, maniac, bluffer etc.) on the aggro player to be comfortable pushing here.
I don't know if I could do that laydown though.
Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:07 pm GMT by ScanX
| Fat Tony wrote: | | i think you only have two options here.......push or fold. i'm leaning towards option #2. theres too many possible hands that beat you to be confident in a push being successful. |
what he said
Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:13 pm GMT by 1988 TR
I had only been playing for 20 minutes or so.... This player just joined a few hands ago, so no info.
You would put him on AA or KK given that small pre flop raise? I raised to $35 and he came back only $25 more.
You don't like raising him $135 back to see where you stand?
Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:17 pm GMT by ScanX
| 1988 TR wrote: |
You don't like raising him $135 back to see where you stand? |
what if he calls ?
the flop aint scary at all, he might call with hands as weak as JJ or TT, leaving you in trouble for the turn.
so raising is only good if he folds...
if u wanted info u should have reraised preflop maybe
Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:37 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| ScanX wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: |
You don't like raising him $135 back to see where you stand? |
what if he calls ?
the flop aint scary at all, he might call with hands as weak as JJ or TT, leaving you in trouble for the turn.
so raising is only good if he folds...
if u wanted info u should have reraised preflop maybe |
What if he calls with JJ or TT? I guess I am throwing a party since he is less than 10:1 to win and the pot is only offering him 4:1.
I didn't raise back pre flop for 2 reasons :
1) I may be beat already.
2) Wanted to see the flop first - No A or K and I am feeling better. A flop like this is pretty good for QQ.
Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:41 pm GMT by 1988 TR
I actually went with the 135 raise... Still wasn't sure if I was beat yet or he had a hand like A  J or A K .
Here was the flop action :
*** FLOP ***
1988 TR checks
tjb007 bets $135
1988 TR raises to $270
tjb007 calls $135
hmmmm
Posted Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:53 pm GMT by ScanX
| 1988 TR wrote: | | ScanX wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: |
You don't like raising him $135 back to see where you stand? |
what if he calls ?
the flop aint scary at all, he might call with hands as weak as JJ or TT, leaving you in trouble for the turn.
so raising is only good if he folds...
if u wanted info u should have reraised preflop maybe |
What if he calls with JJ or TT? I guess I am throwing a party since he is less than 10:1 to win and the pot is only offering him 4:1.
I didn't raise back pre flop for 2 reasons :
1) I may be beat already.
2) Wanted to see the flop first - No A or K and I am feeling better. A flop like this is pretty good for QQ. |
I know u are favourite if he has JJ or TT and that he is wrong to call but that still is problematic on turn...especially considering u are out of position.
so u actually raised and got called, what was the turn and ur action ?
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:04 am GMT by 1988 TR
| ScanX wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | | ScanX wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: |
You don't like raising him $135 back to see where you stand? |
what if he calls ?
the flop aint scary at all, he might call with hands as weak as JJ or TT, leaving you in trouble for the turn.
so raising is only good if he folds...
if u wanted info u should have reraised preflop maybe |
What if he calls with JJ or TT? I guess I am throwing a party since he is less than 10:1 to win and the pot is only offering him 4:1.
I didn't raise back pre flop for 2 reasons :
1) I may be beat already.
2) Wanted to see the flop first - No A or K and I am feeling better. A flop like this is pretty good for QQ. |
I know u are favourite if he has JJ or TT and that he is wrong to call but that still is problematic on turn...especially considering u are out of position.
so u actually raised and got called, what was the turn and ur action ? |
Sometimes I would probably have just gone all in... I just wasn't sure what was going on yet. I felt like a hand that had me beat would put me all in after the flop raise giving me a chance to lay down (not sure I would have, but it still gave me an out).
The hand turns less interesting on the turn. More fun analyzing to this point.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:06 am GMT by 1988 TR
Another thing to think about - I am barely favored against A x and just flipping coins against A K .
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:24 am GMT by suitedaces84
If you're scared of AA/KK check call the flop then donk any non A/K/Q turn and river. That's probably the best way to keep the pot small. I wouldn't be scared of AA/KK here (maybe I'd bust) but I'd check raise more on the flop and push a black turn. It is standard to not raise more with a monster like AA or KK in your game?
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:16 am GMT by red_pen
I am guessing and I want my mistakes to be made evident to me if I say something totally off-wack. I don't play at this level and it requires a kind of thinking (non-scared) of which I am just not capable. But it is fascinating stuff all the same. There are a bunch of cards I don't like to see appearing on the turn. A, K, any heart. If he's playing an underpair to your ladies he could conceivably push if any of these scare cards appear, or if he hits his set. Thats a few "outs" and his calling your raise on the flop was prolly pot-odds correct if he's capable of this play which you have to assume he is. of course, he may be wanting you to think this way. if the turn blanks I push and take my chances. but i am a fool.
would it be dreadfully wrong to c-raise more or push the flop?
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:55 am GMT by howzit
i guess you have no notes on this guy and I lead at this flop a lot.
lead for $85-90 and fold to a raise.
let's assume he's not a crazy mother because you have no reads so a "normal" hand range would be hands like JJ, 10 10, big ace. Before I saw you check-raising him, i'd check/call him down. What will suck is that by just calling, your hand is transparent in my opinion (TT - QQ, maybe AK w/the Ace of hearts) I think you're ahead of most hand ranges.
once you min-raise WHICH I HATE because there's no valuable info gained here, he could still have a big ace, JJ, 10 10 or a very weirdly played KK. Also the pot is now $660 w/$600 effective stack in teh back w/2 streets to play. Yikes. You just made a nice-sized pot out of position w/out any good reads.
However, him calling you on the flop is good. This also makes your decision a cake-walk on the turn. push any non-heart turn.
Lead the flop, maintain pot control. I don't recommend pushing all-in on the flop because the hands that you want in (JJ, 1010, big ace) will just fold while hands killing you (AA, KK) will call and like you said, a suited ace is very close equity wise.
After the flop call, i think you're ahead.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:11 am GMT by Dave B
Heads up, 6 handed, I am pretty confident here . I am a little worried about a flush, but I dont think he is on an overpair. What would be bet pot with that flop and AA KK? Would he be worried about a flush, maybe, but I doubt it.
I am thinking a mid pair (9-J), he likes his hand, but he isnt thrilled.
I am sure I will be wrong, but who knows.
1988, why no reraise on the flop? I dont play a lot of NL, but when I do play, I always want to know where I am at, instead of seeing a flop and trying to put things together after I am already invested. It seems like you take a LOT more assumed risks than I am comfortable with. Do you have wild swings mid session? No critizing (because your style clearly works, esp in shorthanded games), just curious.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:19 am GMT by Loonbat
The preflop reraise size makes me think you have the best hand. The flop is good for you, and I like the raise on the flop.
I'd only be scared of a heart, A, or K on the turn. If none of these hit, I'm betting 2/3rds of the pot.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:29 am GMT by 1988 TR
| Dave B wrote: |
1988, why no reraise on the flop? I dont play a lot of NL, but when I do play, I always want to know where I am at, instead of seeing a flop and trying to put things together after I am already invested. It seems like you take a LOT more assumed risks than I am comfortable with. Do you have wild swings mid session? No critizing (because your style clearly works, esp in shorthanded games), just curious. |
I did re-raise the pot - I checked to see where he was at, he bet $135 (pot) and I reraised $135. He just called.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:33 am GMT by howzit
| 1988 TR wrote: | | Dave B wrote: |
1988, why no reraise on the flop? I dont play a lot of NL, but when I do play, I always want to know where I am at, instead of seeing a flop and trying to put things together after I am already invested. It seems like you take a LOT more assumed risks than I am comfortable with. Do you have wild swings mid session? No critizing (because your style clearly works, esp in shorthanded games), just curious. |
I did re-raise the pot - I checked to see where he was at, he bet $135 (pot) and I reraised $135. He just called. |
he bet pot, 1988 min-raised. villain is getting 3:1 to call, if he had suited hearts, KK, AA this the time to push.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:34 am GMT by 1988 TR
| howzit wrote: | i guess you have no notes on this guy and I lead at this flop a lot.
lead for $85-90 and fold to a raise.
let's assume he's not a crazy mother because you have no reads so a "normal" hand range would be hands like JJ, 10 10, big ace. Before I saw you check-raising him, i'd check/call him down. What will suck is that by just calling, your hand is transparent in my opinion (TT - QQ, maybe AK w/the Ace of hearts) I think you're ahead of most hand ranges.
once you min-raise WHICH I HATE because there's no valuable info gained here, he could still have a big ace, JJ, 10 10 or a very weirdly played KK. Also the pot is now $660 w/$600 effective stack in teh back w/2 streets to play. Yikes. You just made a nice-sized pot out of position w/out any good reads.
However, him calling you on the flop is good. This also makes your decision a cake-walk on the turn. push any non-heart turn.
Lead the flop, maintain pot control. I don't recommend pushing all-in on the flop because the hands that you want in (JJ, 1010, big ace) will just fold while hands killing you (AA, KK) will call and like you said, a suited ace is very close equity wise.
After the flop call, i think you're ahead. |
I understand what you are saying...
The problem with anything other than the min-raise in my mind is that it then becomes less of a bet for information & I am pretty much stuck in the pot.
Say he bets the 135 I raise 250. Now I am in the pot for 445. Going to be extremely hard to ever let the hand go if he comes back all in.
I raised only 135, now I am in for 330... Still in there for a good amount, but I feel like I have the option of laying down to an all in. Not sure I could have made the laydown, but at least I would have a chance to consider it. 
I understand that if he is on a flush draw or had AK, I am giving him the proper odds to call the bet, but without being able to put him on a hand, I can't make him pay for a draw - Just because it may really be me just giving him my chips.
If I am him with AA or KK there, I push all in on the flop raise.
Of course, he could be thinking No A or heart on the turn & I'm pushing. To me, that is playing it a little too scared - If I'm holding an Ace or hearts to his pocket KK, then he needs to make me pay for that draw. If I'm holding AA, that is just bad luck.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:38 am GMT by howzit
villain screwed up preflop by betting too small and on the flop by just calling. You're ahead.
OR very good at pokah.
Go w/option A.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:43 am GMT by howzit
one more thing about hte min-raise, you're right that it is the only option you have to raise. However, i like leading a lot more here and if he raises, i dump it.
FWIW, sometimes, if I have the betting lead and somebody leads into me and I have a flush draw, I'll call and then reraise big on the turn when it blanks. But i don't do weak-ass preflop min-raises. It only spews chips in the long run.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:43 am GMT by 1988 TR
| red_pen wrote: | I am guessing and I want my mistakes to be made evident to me if I say something totally off-wack. I don't play at this level and it requires a kind of thinking (non-scared) of which I am just not capable. But it is fascinating stuff all the same. There are a bunch of cards I don't like to see appearing on the turn. A, K, any heart. If he's playing an underpair to your ladies he could conceivably push if any of these scare cards appear, or if he hits his set. Thats a few "outs" and his calling your raise on the flop was prolly pot-odds correct if he's capable of this play which you have to assume he is. of course, he may be wanting you to think this way. if the turn blanks I push and take my chances. but i am a fool.
would it be dreadfully wrong to c-raise more or push the flop? |
No, I don't think it would be dreadfully wrong to c-raise more or push the flop. I think a few here would advocate that. There are times against certain players, I may even make that move (Where they are raising pre flop a lot with a lot of different hands).
The biggest thing that has me catious is the re-raise pre flop. I raised 2.5 times the blinds & he raised another 2.5. If he is holding AA or KK, that is too weak of a play in my mind. But some players with that hand may think it is just so unbeatable (Big mistake) that they want to get more money in the pot & not chase you away. I'm not sure I've ever made that kind of raise.... If I'm holding a good hand, a typical raise back for me might be pot - Which would be something like a $100 raise.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:44 am GMT by Dave B
Sorry, I meant why no reraise preflop?
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:46 am GMT by 1988 TR
| suitedaces84 wrote: | | If you're scared of AA/KK check call the flop then donk any non A/K/Q turn and river. That's probably the best way to keep the pot small. I wouldn't be scared of AA/KK here (maybe I'd bust) but I'd check raise more on the flop and push a black turn. It is standard to not raise more with a monster like AA or KK in your game? |
With the call only on the flop by him to my re-raise.... I am thinking I have the best hand now. I'll post the turn next, but it really takes away the analyzing of the hand. Had the turn been different, the hand would have remained pretty interesting.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:50 am GMT by Loonbat
| 1988 TR wrote: |
With the call only on the flop by him to my re-raise.... I am thinking I have the best hand now. I'll post the turn next, but it really takes away the analyzing of the hand. Had the turn been different, the hand would have remained pretty interesting. |
Let me guess ... a Q?
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:52 am GMT by 1988 TR
| howzit wrote: | one more thing about hte min-raise, you're right that it is the only option you have to raise. However, i like leading a lot more here and if he raises, i dump it.
FWIW, sometimes, if I have the betting lead and somebody leads into me and I have a flush draw, I'll call and then reraise big on the turn when it blanks. But i don't do weak-ass preflop min-raises. It only spews chips in the long run. |
Option 1 there is definitely a good option..... I get relatively the same info I did in my play for probably 1/2 off. I worry a little bit about this though - If I lead out, that could mean so many different things - I probably lead out with $100 on that flop with any hand 77-QQ. He would naturally re-raise with a hand like 10-10 to AA. So if he re-raises, I still don't know if I'm beat - It's probably 50/50 in my head. If I check raise him, I think that puts him on high alert to not F around I HAVE a hand. So if now he wants to put me all in, I know he has a good hand. I am check raising him & he still wants to put all his chips in - That is a huge signal for me to tread lightly.
On your point # 2, I agree - I dislike min raises also. But in this case, it's not a small bet I am facing - It is $135. That doesn't leave me a lot of room for my raise. If he had only bet $35 or so, I have a lot more options. So my re-raise, although it is only a min-raise, I am still putting $270 into the pot - Nothing to take lightly.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:56 am GMT by 1988 TR
| Loonbat wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: |
With the call only on the flop by him to my re-raise.... I am thinking I have the best hand now. I'll post the turn next, but it really takes away the analyzing of the hand. Had the turn been different, the hand would have remained pretty interesting. |
Let me guess ... a Q? |
Yah, a few cards that would make the hand a little less interesting - Or at least turn it into an entirely different discussion :
Q - Hand now turns into, how much can I win?
K or A - Ruh Roh. Proceed with caution.
Heart - Again, proceed with caution. May not be a terrible card & I like it more than an A or K - just because AK unsuited is more likely than AKs. Plus, if he was holding AA or KK, I MAY have another out with my heart draw.
To be honest 10 or J would also scare me a bit as I haven't ruled out 1010 or JJ out yet.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:01 am GMT by 1988 TR
| Dave B wrote: | | Sorry, I meant why no reraise preflop? |
Mostly because I know myself..... LOL
QQ is right about the cutoff where I will not fold preflop (Unless I really know the player). So if I re-raise & he comes back over the top, I probably call.... It has worked out enough where I think it is the correct play. Sure I have got popped by AA or KK before, but have also won against AK, JJ, and a whole slew of bluffs gone terribly wrong.
I called to see the flop - I have a strong hand, no doubt about it. But I wanted to see the flop before I put $1k in. And to be honest, the $25 re-raise on the flop had me cautious. It's a very strange re-raise and it did have me a bit confused.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:05 am GMT by 1988 TR
Turn (for Loonbat) :D :
*** TURN *** 
1988 TR checks
tjb007 checks
I could have bet $100 or so here because if he does have AK of hearts, he would most certainly call & if he misses, I won't get much on the river. Maybe that would have been a better play? Not sure...
I just wanted to give him a chance to bluff at it or throw all his chips in with AA or KK.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:05 am GMT by 1988 TR
*** RIVER *** 
What do you bet?
If my math is right :
Pot : $675
My Stack : $786
His Stack : $610
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:14 am GMT by ScanX
| 1988 TR wrote: | *** RIVER ***
What do you bet?
If my math is right :
Pot : $675
My Stack : $786
His Stack : $610 |
I bet 200 or 250...hoping for a crying call by JJ or TT
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:15 am GMT by Dave B
Turn, why in the hell would you be worried about a heart, I am SCREAMING bring a heart on the river.
I also check the turn w/ the 2nd nuts here, Hopefully he has AQ or hope that the Q scared you and plays back at you.
River, I likely bet $200-300. I dont see him betting now behind me.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:39 am GMT by howzit
bet $250-$275 as is.
i take it back, checking the turn here is good. It looks like KK/AA is scared of QQ. Jacks are not liking that card.
$250-$275 is a good "block bet" amount. since we know there's no way he's coming over the top.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:40 am GMT by red_pen
I hope you checked called his bet. I wanna see his hand so much more than I want you to win his cash. nothing personal like.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:49 am GMT by howzit
| red_pen wrote: | | I hope you checked called his bet. I wanna see his hand so much more than I want you to win his cash. nothing personal like. |
you're playing the wrong game.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:52 am GMT by 1988 TR
| Dave B wrote: | Turn, why in the hell would you be worried about a heart, I am SCREAMING bring a heart on the river.
I also check the turn w/ the 2nd nuts here, Hopefully he has AQ or hope that the Q scared you and plays back at you.
River, I likely bet $200-300. I dont see him betting now behind me. |
? Not sure what you are referring to.
Earlier I mentioned it might have been better to bet the turn since he would still likely call a bet on the turn with a flush draw, but if he misses the flush, I am not going to get much (if anything) on the river.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:53 am GMT by 1988 TR
| howzit wrote: | | red_pen wrote: | | I hope you checked called his bet. I wanna see his hand so much more than I want you to win his cash. nothing personal like. |
you're playing the wrong game. |
hehe
I think he means that since it is my money, he doesn't care if I win more, he just wants to know what the opponent had!
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:54 am GMT by screwthepooch
I hope he goes over the top and beats you with his pocket deuces.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:57 am GMT by 1988 TR
| screwthepooch wrote: | | I hope he goes over the top and beats you with his pocket deuces. |
That would rock!
That hand would actually fit the betting pattern pretty good - With the exception of his pot bet on the flop.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:59 am GMT by howzit
previously i wrote that checking the turn is very suspect because under normal circumstances, very few hands give a free card there.
But, the queen is a perfect scare card to check there because will be frozen and jacks, tens have to hate that card.
Overall, he either has AK of hearts or a smaller pair and if we're really lucky, he has 66.
So decide which way he's leaning towards in the hand range, flush draw or pocket pair and bet. I think he has a pocket pair here more often than a flush draw so I don't mind checking.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:00 am GMT by Dave B
You wrote after making a boat on the turn:
K or A - Ruh Roh. Proceed with caution.
Heart - Again, proceed with caution. May not be a terrible card & I like it more than an A or K - just because AK unsuited is more likely than AKs. Plus, if he was holding AA or KK, I MAY have another out with my heart draw.
Why proceed w/ caution, no heart below A or K can touch you.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:03 am GMT by screwthepooch
| Dave B wrote: | You wrote after making a boat on the turn:
K or A - Ruh Roh. Proceed with caution.
Heart - Again, proceed with caution. May not be a terrible card & I like it more than an A or K - just because AK unsuited is more likely than AKs. Plus, if he was holding AA or KK, I MAY have another out with my heart draw.
Why proceed w/ caution, no heart below A or K can touch you. |
Dave,
re-read that post. He was commenting about what possibilities would come on the turn before the Queen came.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:25 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Dave B wrote: | You wrote after making a boat on the turn:
K or A - Ruh Roh. Proceed with caution.
Heart - Again, proceed with caution. May not be a terrible card & I like it more than an A or K - just because AK unsuited is more likely than AKs. Plus, if he was holding AA or KK, I MAY have another out with my heart draw.
Why proceed w/ caution, no heart below A or K can touch you. |
Sorry, I was referring to turn cards that change the discussion up to that point :
"Yah, a few cards that would make the hand a little less interesting - Or at least turn it into an entirely different discussion :
Q - Hand now turns into, how much can I win?
K or A - Ruh Roh. Proceed with caution.
Heart - Again, proceed with caution. May not be a terrible card & I like it more than an A or K - just because AK unsuited is more likely than AKs. Plus, if he was holding AA or KK, I MAY have another out with my heart draw. "
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:30 pm GMT by 1988 TR
So just to finish this off, I bet $300 on the river (which sounds like the same bet most of you would have made). It's a good bet for a few reasons :
1) The guy is getting 3:1 to call. Tough to lay down a hand that has a reasonable shot at winning.
2) Wanted to make it look like I missed a flush draw & was trying to steal the pot.
3) Thought all in would scare some hands away - Was trying to make as much as possible.
He re-raised me $310, all-in.
What now, fold?
haha j/k
I called and he had KK.
Just thought this was a very interesting hand the way the betting went - Definitely not typical.
Very risky for him to just call the turn & let me see another card - What if I was on a flush draw? The betting would fit that.
He played it weak the whole way & then wanted to get agressive on the river?
His play would have worked because after the flop check-raise call, I really thought I was ahead.
Got really lucky on the turn.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:43 pm GMT by mugged_off
Nice work.
Interesting read, thanks for posting.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:47 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| mugged_off wrote: | Nice work.
Interesting read, thanks for posting. |
Thanks - Sometimes it's just better to be lucky than good. 
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:41 pm GMT by ScanX
| 1988 TR wrote: | | screwthepooch wrote: | | I hope he goes over the top and beats you with his pocket deuces. |
That would rock!
That hand would actually fit the betting pattern pretty good - With the exception of his pot bet on the flop. |
I dont see how it fits the betting pattern preflop either to be honest.
nh anyway
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:47 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| ScanX wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | | screwthepooch wrote: | | I hope he goes over the top and beats you with his pocket deuces. |
That would rock!
That hand would actually fit the betting pattern pretty good - With the exception of his pot bet on the flop. |
I dont see how it fits the betting pattern preflop either to be honest.
nh anyway |
Not for a good player, but for everyone else.
Posted Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:27 pm GMT by howzit
| 1988 TR wrote: | | I called and he had KK. |
why he didn't push that flop is beyond me.
i guess anytime a weak player puts very little money in to a pot and then starts pumping it up, he's got a big hand. Nice way to break an idiot.
Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:00 pm GMT by Dr_Pablo
this post was the most interesting 15 minutes of reading i ever spent on this forum, howitz and 1988, you guys should open a NL school.
Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:57 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Dr_Pablo wrote: | | this post was the most interesting 15 minutes of reading i ever spent on this forum, howitz and 1988, you guys should open a NL school. |
Wow, thanks!
Howzit rules.
Posted Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:14 am GMT by TheSalche
did he scream after he saw that?
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