Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:59 am GMT by zinn0
Playing a high stakes home game last night. .25/.50 were the blinds.  Anyway, I was on the button and it was folded to me. I had Q 10  and wasn't in love with the hand, but tried to steal the blinds and made it $2.50 to go. BB was the only caller. Flop was Q  2 6 . Checked to me, I bet another $2.50 which was very quickly called. My intital feeling was the guy was on a heart draw. The turn came out 4  , checked to me and I threw $5 into the pot, trying to chase him away. Alas, he called my bet and one of the worst cards that could come came on the river. The 10 and the big blind moves all-in on me.
I have played many, many times against this guy, and the majority of the time when he hits his drawing hand, he does not like to move in. If he is first to act, which he was, he usually checks to me and let's me bet and then comes over the top. Not much, but just enough to get me to call him. Anyway, once he moved in, I started thinking about things. The first mistake I made was thinking that my instincts were wrong and he wasn't on a heart draw. I thought maybe he had 2 pr. A set was unlikely with the checking/calling that he was doing. Once again, this isn't his style. Long story short, I made the call and flipped my two pair and he just said 'nuts' and showed me A 8 . What can you do in a situation like this? Did I not bet enough to chase him out? In hindsight, I probably should have pushed the turn and ended it there. Was this a bad call?
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Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:04 am GMT by Skribbles
Not knowing the player, probably not. If he is just some average player, you could have pushed all in on the flop and still got called.
Too many players will not lay down a nut flush draw to anything.
Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:53 pm GMT by Loonbat
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Too many players will not lay down a nut flush draw to anything. |
True - regardless of pot odds.
Also, I'd worry about pushing too hard with TP, T kicker. He could have been slow playing a flopped set (or 2 pr) and on the flop or turn, you'd be hard justified to call an all-in. Him pushing (maybe not that hard, though) on the river is a decent move. Too many people miss bets by looking for a check/raise with the nuts ... thankfully, as this has saved me alot of bets.
Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:06 pm GMT by JiveTurkey
Bet amounts sucked.
2.50 into a 5 buck pot (3-1 plus implied on a call)
5 into a 10 buck pot (same deal)
Initial steal may or may not have been slightly high depending on what your home game observes for "standard raises" or what your initial leads are anyway. That notwithstanding, you've gotta make it less attractive for the heart draw you put him on. Pot sized at least on the flop. Depending on the depth of your stack, all in on the turn.
At least make it a mistake for him to run that flush down, or give up after the steal attempt failed. This was some really passive poker on both counts, except for the pre-flop overbet and the river all in.
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