MTT Hand, would you play differently? |
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Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:02 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Just an MTT hand I played recently, I was wondering if I should have played it differently. The outcome of the hand doesn't really bother me much and isn't really why I post this. I'm more curious if I should have played it differently.
I'll also mention that Tzar-X raised almost every second hand prior to this one.
The format is Prima poker, but it should be readable 
Seat: 1 pxu
Seat: 2 HERO JD AS (Dealer)
Seat: 3 Soendergade
Seat: 4 falek
Seat: 5 nahoj
Seat: 6 Tzar-X
Seat: 7 Berbelucha
Seat: 8 sevensjack
Seat: 9 CracyTermit
Seat: 10 PokAArKKID
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OpeningBetRound
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Soendergade : Posts small blind 15.00
falek : Posts big blind 30.00
nahoj : folds sitting out
Tzar-X : Raises for 120.00
Berbelucha : Calls for 120.00
sevensjack : Folds
PokAArKKID : folds sitting out
pxu : folds sitting out
HERO : Raises for 240.00
Soendergade : Folds
falek : folds sitting out
Tzar-X : Calls for 120.00
Berbelucha : Calls for 120.00
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Flop 3C, JS, 9C
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Tzar-X : Bets 270.00
Berbelucha : Calls for 270.00
HERO : Went all-in 765.00
Tzar-X : Raises for 1485.00
Berbelucha : Went all-in 735.00
Tzar-X : Receives returned betting money 750.00
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Turn 4C
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River 7H
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Showdown
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HERO JS JD AS 9C 7H - One Pair
Tzar-X JS JH KS 9C 7H - One Pair
Berbelucha KC 9C 4C 3C 2C - Flush
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Result
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Soendergade Mucked Cards
falek Mucked Cards
nahoj Mucked Cards
Tzar-X Showed Cards
Berbelucha Showed Cards (Winning) 3540.00
sevensjack Mucked Cards
PokAArKKID Mucked Cards
pxu Mucked Cards
HERO Showed Cards
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Players Cards
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Soendergade - -
falek - -
nahoj - -
Tzar-X KS JH
Berbelucha KC 2C
sevensjack - -
PokAArKKID - -
pxu - -
HERO JD AS
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Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:17 pm GMT by 1988 TR
I like everything except for the raise pre flop. AJ isn't much of a raising hand & you were in there RE-RAISING with it.
How K2s thought his hand was worth 240 pre flop is beyond me.
Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:52 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| 1988 TR wrote: | I like everything except for the raise pre flop. AJ isn't much of a raising hand & you were in there RE-RAISING with it.
How K2s thought his hand was worth 240 pre flop is beyond me. |
Duly noted. I tend to be too aggressive, so that input is much appreciated.
Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:14 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| tame_deuces wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: | I like everything except for the raise pre flop. AJ isn't much of a raising hand & you were in there RE-RAISING with it.
How K2s thought his hand was worth 240 pre flop is beyond me. |
Duly noted. I tend to be too aggressive, so that input is much appreciated. |
Don't get me wrong, it's not like I have never re-raised with AJ - Especially with one guy at the table who never misses a bet.... But from a "Most Generally Accepted" standpoint, it's probably just a calling hand.
Posted Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:18 pm GMT by TheSalche
agree with TR
its a shame the idiot with JK went all in cause he gave the flush draw better odds to chase that flush
nice hand, better luck next time
Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:57 pm GMT by JiveTurkey
What'd you hope to accomplish with the min raise? Honestly?
You gave Tzar better than 4-1 to call (You can be sure he will)
Then, Berbelucha gets just over 5-1. If it was worth calling before (in his mind anyway) it's even more worth it now. Furthermore, you just reopened the betting for Tzar or even Ber if they just found a real hand and were praying for someone to bet.
Preflop min raises are teh suck, especially into multi-way pots. An effective raise here will leave you with too few chips to correctly release the hand on the flop so if you raise, it has to be all in. Unless you like playing fit-or-fold with 50% of your chips, that is.
Calling pretty much sucks too. Over 10% of your chips and you're playing guessing games on the flop, since lord only knows where you stand. Not to mention you add to the chances of more trailers in behind you. Ideally, you'd like to isolate against the Tzar, since he's the most likely to pay you off, and the most likely to be behind your AJ, according to your read.
So min raises suck, a real raise isn't the greatest, and calling sucks too.
All in or fold. Personally, I move for the shove.
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