Posted Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:30 am GMT by Skribbles
Again, these are hands that I am very confident that I'm going to win the pot with and I want to make sure I get my maximum profit from them.
Hand 1) Seems simple enough to play. Got bullets and hit a set. I wasn't really worried about the flush or straight draw. My raise on the turn scared of 2 players which cost me 1 BB for sure and posibbly 2 or 3 more. Would you flat call the turn and hope to keep them around for the river for a few more bets?
PatO610 posts small blind (5)
dperez2006 posts big blind (10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO  
tmccollom: nh
waterbugette calls (10)
tmccollom folds.
rose1530 calls (10)
Maccent folds.
HERO raises (20) to 20
Bajaman111 folds.
GameFace_1 folds.
PatO610 folds.
dperez2006 calls (10)
waterbugette calls (10)
rose1530 calls (10)
** Dealing Flop ** :   
dperez2006 checks.
waterbugette checks.
rose1530 checks.
HERO bets (10)
dperez2006 calls (10)
waterbugette calls (10)
rose1530 calls (10)
** Dealing Turn ** : 
dperez2006 checks.
waterbugette checks.
rose1530 bets (20)
HERO raises (40) to 40
dperez2006 folds.
waterbugette folds.
rose1530 calls (20)
** Dealing River ** : 
rose1530 checks.
HERO bets (20)
rose1530 calls (20)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $242 | Rake: $3
Hand 2) I know, I know.... 3 bet pre-flop with 33!!! Anytime this guy would raise I would 3 bet and isolate him. The previous 4 times he had opened with a raise I had 3 bet and either took the pot on the flop or turn.
I loved the flopped. I hadn't expected the BB to cold call 2 bets but with him doing that I put him on a strong hand like AK, AQ, KQs. The perfect flop for a low set and I knew that I could get some action.
Flop: Should I have raised? Original raiser comes out betting and I thought a raise might push the BB out if he only hit a K.
Turn: Now the BB comes to life and fires out a bet. MP raises and I 3 bet. Bad play? Should I just call and hope that the BB 3-bets? My 3 bet killed any action that I could hope to get on the river. There was now 2 flush draws on the board but I really didn't think they were going for them.
inthegutter1 posts small blind (5)
Machmood posts big blind (10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO  
tnvolgolfer folds.
JHJMugsy folds.
fsb101 folds.
daboard folds.
steve_50 folds.
petrovickp raises (20) to 20
Maccent folds.
HERO raises (30) to 30
inthegutter1 folds.
Machmood calls (20)
petrovickp calls (10)
** Dealing Flop ** :   
Machmood checks.
petrovickp bets (10)
HERO calls (10)
Machmood calls (10)
** Dealing Turn ** : 
Machmood bets (20)
petrovickp raises (40) to 40
HERO raises (60) to 60
Machmood calls (40)
petrovickp folds.
** Dealing River ** : 
Machmood checks.
HERO bets (20)
Machmood calls (20)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $322 | Rake: $3
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Posted Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:53 am GMT by Dave B
Hand 1, yes, you have the nuts, only a 16% chance someone will make a str8 (likely 8% with that board unless they called w/ nothing on the flop). Just call the turn and hope the other 2 hang in. Ideally, they have 2nd or 3rd pair and they make trips on the river. One caller behind you, I might raise here, hoping to be 3 bet and capped by other chump.
Hand 2, I like your play here. Pound pound pound, dont mess around w/ a str8, flush or made 2 pair very possible. I likely just check the river, I dont want to be check raised by a flush or set of As or Ks. $20 more in profit isnt worth $40 in losses at this point, the pot is big enough and I can very well be beat here.
I dont mind 3 betting 33 if you are abusing a single player. Many nights I have made my entire profit from one predictable, overly aggressive player. Now, if he had raised and got 2-3 callers before me, no way I 3 bet. 33, I likely fold.
BTW-notice the 1% rake on the last hand and 1.3% on the 1st? If you can win at these, you can be much less dominant and still have nice paydays.
Posted Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:59 am GMT by Loonbat
Hand one - call the turn and raise on the river. You have someone betting into you and you hold the nuts hand. The only hand scaring you is the open ended str8 option which develops on the turn and if they were holding anything that would then give then that option, god help them.
Hand two - the only hand which concerns me is Ax diamonds, but since they didn't raise the river, you can disregard this hand option. Let me guess ... he turned Ks up, or some other goofy shit, which still doesn't concern you.
Posted Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:02 am GMT by Loonbat
| Dave B wrote: |
BTW-notice the 1% rake on the last hand and 1.3% on the 1st? If you can win at these, you can be much less dominant and still have nice paydays. |
One of the perks of playing higher limits and still having a $3 cap on the rake. Wait until Skrib starts playing 100/200 ... the rake will seem irrelevant.
Posted Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:11 am GMT by Skribbles
| Loonbat wrote: |
One of the perks of playing higher limits and still having a $3 cap on the rake. Wait until Skrib starts playing 100/200 ... the rake will seem irrelevant. |
100/200 eh.... not for a long time. I'm cashing out too much of my bankroll to get there. Football season is starting up soon so I gotta make a few purchases. Picking up a PVR / HiDef box, Sunday ticket and gotta by a BBQ right away.
I'll reply to the hands in a bit. Got a little work to do first.
Posted Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:19 pm GMT by Skribbles
| Dave B wrote: | Hand 1, yes, you have the nuts, only a 16% chance someone will make a str8 (likely 8% with that board unless they called w/ nothing on the flop). Just call the turn and hope the other 2 hang in. Ideally, they have 2nd or 3rd pair and they make trips on the river. One caller behind you, I might raise here, hoping to be 3 bet and capped by other chump.
Hand 2, I like your play here. Pound pound pound, dont mess around w/ a str8, flush or made 2 pair very possible. I likely just check the river, I dont want to be check raised by a flush or set of As or Ks. $20 more in profit isnt worth $40 in losses at this point, the pot is big enough and I can very well be beat here. |
Hand 1 I think I got trigger happy. A flat call would have been much better. Calling would have got me 2 more BB on the turn instead of just 1. That would lead to at least 2 BB on the river instead of 1. So a minimum of 2 BB I missed when holding the nuts.
Hand 2 I wasn't concerned about a bigger set. The odds of it are so remote that I don't want to miss a bet by checking the river.
As I played it I got 5 BB on the turn and just 1 on the river. Had I just called I would have got 4 BB minimum on the turn and possibly 8. If I smooth call and the original bettor 3 bets then I'd be able to cap.
Posted Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:24 pm GMT by Skribbles
| Loonbat wrote: | Hand one - call the turn and raise on the river. You have someone betting into you and you hold the nuts hand. The only hand scaring you is the open ended str8 option which develops on the turn and if they were holding anything that would then give then that option, god help them.
Hand two - the only hand which concerns me is Ax diamonds, but since they didn't raise the river, you can disregard this hand option. Let me guess ... he turned Ks up, or some other goofy shit, which still doesn't concern you. |
Hand One: Agree completely with you and Dave.
Hand Two: I may have broke another mouse had he gone runner runner flush on me. Thankfully he didn't. He turned over AKo... flopped top 2 and the best I could get out of him was a 3 bet on the turn. Seeing what he turned over I definitly shouldn't have raised the turn since he may have 3-bet the turn and I could have raised the river. But hindsight is 20/20.
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