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Pot Limit Is The Worst!



Posted Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:00 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
What a total load of crap PL is! it really is the worst! EVER! worse than NL worse than LM, It's the WORST!

Is there another way i can put this?

In no other game can people suck out on you for as much money as often.

Sure it happens in NL, but nowhere near as often.

Sure it happens in LM but for nowhere near as much.

In PL you get sucked out on a LOT and......... It costs you a fortune every time!

NEVER AGAIN!!

</rant>


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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:07 pm GMT by mindgame
wish I had a buck for every online poker rant that had as it's theme "Never again!"

I'd be able to play at Party Poker for a month.



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:08 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
Yeah, but i mean it!

UNTIL THE NEXT TIME IT'S THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:22 am GMT by JohnnyCache
I like pot limit because you can actually play some on the flop and it's not all "ALL IN SUCKAS ALL IN SUCKA ALL IN I'M ALL IN ARE YOU ALL IN? I CAN CLEARLY AFFORD TO SIMPLY GO ALL IN WITH ANY CARDS THAT OFFER MORE THEN A 5% ADVANTAGE WHEREAS YOU CANNOT"

Not that I have a chip on my shoulder about NL or anything



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:08 am GMT by Muck
JohnnyCache wrote:
Not that I have a chip on my shoulder about NL or anything

I thought that was a potato field, look there’s even a tractor on top Smile

wEbMaStEr wrote:

UNTIL THE NEXT TIME IT'S THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN

I was going to mention that I’ve played in a few UK casinos from Reading to Birmingham with buy-ins from £5 to £50 and every single one of them...was Pot Limit. Then again things are often different in Scotland.



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:18 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
No, most casino games/tourneys here are PL.

PL is for cowards who don't like to go ALL IN ALL IN ALL IN SUCKAS!!!



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:37 am GMT by mindgame
I've said this before, but it's worth repeating. (Besides, I haven't had an original idea in quite a while.)

Day in, day out, it's tougher playing limit poker. Any moron can lay back in the weeds waiting for great hands and then shove all his chips in the pot. In limit you have to dance with all the chaos, watching 5 people call your UTG raise with those aces and then dodging through the minefield to the finish. You have to mix it up, you have to take risks constantly, you must stand in the middle of the fray and duke it out.

I don't think you really know what a suck-out is until you've made it 4 bets in a 10/20 kill pot from one off the button with your AA and watched the last guy come in for $60 cold on J4o--then suffered through the denoument as he stacks a $600+ pot after he flopped 44J.



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:41 am GMT by BeerWench13
And people wonder why I won't play FL.


Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:54 am GMT by mindgame
Okay, lost again here in Indiana, A.

I know L
PL
NL

and what is FL?



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:54 am GMT by mindgame
OOOPs...

Nevermind.

Florida....
gotta be.



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:06 am GMT by BeerWench13
FL=Fixed Limit
I don't think I even have a name for Florida limit according to what I've heard from my sister, her boyfriend and my brother-in-law (no, not the husband of the same sister).



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:04 am GMT by mindgame
Is this not the brother of the same sister who wasn't the guy who's buddy's best friend stopped dating your mother's cousin after they never met?

oh nevermind...TMI



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:14 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
Limit poker is a very skillful game (despite all the suckouts) long term a "correct" player will profit playing Limit.
No Limit is also a game which requires a lot of skill and a lot of other chatacteristics too.
Pot Limit...... Sucks!



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:16 am GMT by BeerWench13
No it's the two guys who went to different schools together who both live with my sisters and one of my sister's mother-in-law.
Scary thing is that's the truth. Shocked



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:25 am GMT by Nut Flush
Quote:
I don't think I even have a name for Florida limit according to what I've heard from my sister, her boyfriend and my brother-in-law (no, not the husband of the same sister).


Florida limit can be referred to as "No foldem holdem". Since Florida law only allows a max bet of $2, you either play 1/2 limit or 2/2 limit.



Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:25 am GMT by mindgame
If that's true (god help us) then it should be called

WB poker.

Why bother.



Posted Sat May 27, 2006 11:34 am GMT by Diana David
Just came across what looks like some postings from days gone bye but was LMAO reading them.
I've made a nice bankroll off PL playing it the way it screams to be played, a game of traps.
Very simple: trap on the river, trap with da nutz.
That won't win a lot of hands, just great big pots!
Suckouts are everywhere and there are even more imagined suckouts (as a derogatory), players playing very favorable pot odds ~ is it a suckout if you have 10:1 pot odds on a backdoor flush draw?
You got to lose in the long run if you can't or don't play position, read the board, compute pot odds and, playing online, have a fair capability for fairly accurate puts on one or two players, and practice Doyle Brunson's dictum that you must gamble now and then.
There is no such thing as a bad poker game, but there sure are a lot of sore losers. /b



Posted Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:12 pm GMT by ToyMachine22122
I Heart PL personally.
Went to a casino the other day (rare thing for me, I live in Dallas and have to drive all the way to OK just to go to one since gambling's illegal in TX) and played PL for the first time. My plan for the night was if I got up to 150% of what I started with I would cash out immediately, but before I got there I had a massive hand and ended up coming home with around 220% what I started with. Good day.

That's as opposed to NL, where last time I played at a casino (which was a while ago and I'll admit I've improved a lot since then) I came home with 70-80% what I started with.

And FL...I don't know, I just don't like it. Yeah, I can turn a profit in it, but it's just not nearly as enjoyable to me. Too restricted feeling (I'll have situations where I desperately want to go all in but oh, limits, so I guess I'll have to settle for betting $2 instead). Plus, it's much harder to bluff in FL. Especially against less skilled players or people with mediocre hands such as top pair that you could normally scare off with a huge bet.



Posted Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:36 pm GMT by Aves
Personally, I don't see that many differences between PL and NL, especially in online games. In live games, the only difference I can see is preflop. Usually live players are looser and a larger than pot sized raise is needed to really narrow the field. However, after the flop, most people don't bet/raise more than the pot anyway, so NL and PL are essentially the same.


Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:47 pm GMT by MasterMike
Can someone explain to me what PL actually is? What does that mean? I know its pot limit, but is it that once like X amount of dollars is in the pot, nobody can bet? Or there is a max on each turn?

Also, ow does that mean tat more poelpe see the flop.



Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:57 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
MasterMike wrote:
Can someone explain to me what PL actually is? What does that mean? I know its pot limit, but is it that once like X amount of dollars is in the pot, nobody can bet? Or there is a max on each turn?

Also, ow does that mean tat more poelpe see the flop.

Pot Limit means that you can bet the size of the Pot and no more at any given time.

Say the blinds are 5/10.

Player one may raise to 35 (call 10 and then raise the size of the new pot... 10 + 10 + 5 = 25). The initial raise is always 7x the SB maximum.

Player two may then choose to call 35, fold, or raise to anywhere between 60 and 120 (call 35 and raise 85 more).

On the flop, if the pot is 400, a player may bet anywhere between 10 and 400.

Got it?



Posted Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:36 pm GMT by MasterMike
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
MasterMike wrote:
Can someone explain to me what PL actually is? What does that mean? I know its pot limit, but is it that once like X amount of dollars is in the pot, nobody can bet? Or there is a max on each turn?

Also, ow does that mean tat more poelpe see the flop.

Pot Limit means that you can bet the size of the Pot and no more at any given time.

Say the blinds are 5/10.

Player one may raise to 35 (call 10 and then raise the size of the new pot... 10 + 10 + 5 = 25). The initial raise is always 7x the SB maximum.

Player two may then choose to call 35, fold, or raise to anywhere between 60 and 120 (call 35 and raise 85 more).

On the flop, if the pot is 400, a player may bet anywhere between 10 and 400.

Got it?


Haha, wow, im sorry, that last post i made was pretty stupid. Besides the 7xSB i knew all of what you said already, for some reason i didnt register that pot limit was the same as what i thought it was.

But thanks for the info.



Posted Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:50 pm GMT by ychennay
Pot Limit is my favorite... I play a certain style and pot-limit seems best suited for me. When I play NL and people go all-in preflop every single hand it completely throws me off my game. Likewise since I don't win many hands(ie. fold often and very conservative), I need the hands that I do win to have big pots and with limit HE it's hard for me to maximize my winnings.





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