XBOX World Series Of Poker 2005 (Split pots) |
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Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:52 pm GMT by swiftbox
Hi, I'm new to poker so bear with me. I've been told by a friend that in Texas Hold'em Poker a split pot is a 50-50 split and he's fairly sure of this. However i recently played the XBOX WSOP game and found some strange splits of the pot (or they appear strange because i'm lacking knowledge). For instance here are two players hands both nine high straights:
9  8  and Q 8 
the community cards were:
2  9 5 7 6
the pot was split $26450 to the person with Q 8 and $17875 to the 9 8
This game has been slated by most of the posts i've read but seems like a good way to learn the basics. If someone knows more about how these split pots are divided or if its just the xbox game i would be most grateful.
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Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:55 pm GMT by suitedaces84
Your friend is correct. The reason it may appear that the pot was not split 50-50 is because one player was all-in. So there were actually two pots. There was a main pot, which split evenly. And there was a side pot that the player with 98 won.
Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:28 pm GMT by swiftbox
Thanks, i've never heard of a side pot in addition to the main pot. If you know anywhere that explains how side pots arise and where what money goes where, i'd be most grateful.
Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:48 pm GMT by swiftbox
... also forgot to ask why did the person with 98 win the side pot?
Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:27 pm GMT by suitedaces84
Because he was the only one in it. Example: I go all-in for 1000, someone with 700 calls. We each put 700 into the main pot and 300 goes into the side pot. Now if someone else with 1000 calls he'd have to put 700 into the main pot and 300 into the side pot. So let's say the guy who started the hand with 700 wins, he wins the main pot. Then the second best hand wins the side pot. If I win the hand, I'll win both pots, as the other guy with 1000 would. If my only caller has 700, I'll win the 300 chip sidepot no matter what.
Posted Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:00 am GMT by Muck
| swiftbox wrote: | | This game has been slated by most of the posts i've read but seems like a good way to learn the basics. If someone knows more about how these split pots are divided or if its just the xbox game i would be most grateful. |
It’s not that the game is bad as such just that it wont teach you how to play very well. Just like people who learn against bots in most games find human players quite a different challenge.
Posted Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:24 am GMT by Cyberhwk
STACKED with Daniel Negraneu is going to be the interesting one. Evidently they AI in it is supposed to be rather good. SHould be released in the next month or two.
Posted Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:55 am GMT by Muck
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The AI system - aka Poki™ - is exclusively licensed to Stacked, and is the result of over ten years of university research in game theory, machine learning, and neural networks. Because of the Poki's high level of customization, poker players will find themselves going up against a vast array of computer player types.
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Poki was designed for FL so it will be interesting to see how well it can be adapted to NL. Most of the components, such as player modelling, should migrate fine but it’s still a significantly different game.
Posted Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:56 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
SUPPOSED but dont have your hopes up, he and all other pros get paid to speak well of the game
its same in every game, they get some big name from the sport say that they worked on it and the game will all this and that then it turns out complete crap.
I've seen it happen way too often in racing games, only Richard Burns rally was a proper sim, and when it comes to sims like that its pretty straight forward u only have to get the physics right, but in poker u have to program AI, and a very complicated one unlike Chess
i'm not saying its not going to be good game, but still dont have your expectations too high, i'd say u willl learn more from DN's vids in game than the actual play
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muck posted as i was writing
didnt know they'll use that , but still FL might be ok, but NL i still think its not going to be as good as they claim
Posted Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:55 am GMT by JohnnyCache
| Cyberhwk wrote: | | STACKED with Daniel Negraneu is going to be the interesting one. Evidently they AI in it is supposed to be rather good. SHould be released in the next month or two. |
It's a version of these dude's code.
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