Posted Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:32 pm GMT by JustLiv
We have a game at my friends house now where around 6-8 players play and I never know when to try to bluff because im always afraid of them all calling it because the way most of em play they would.
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Posted Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:15 pm GMT by crack
What game? Holdem? What structure? No Limit, Pot Limit, Fixed Limit? Tournament or Cash Game?
Posted Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:29 pm GMT by JustLiv
Its a No limit game with 4375 in chips(dont ask my friend is weird) 5$ buy in and everybody is so loose they will call anything so I don't even try to bluff 
Posted Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:29 pm GMT by DougisRad
Don't bluff. Typically, you want to play the opposite of how the table is playing. If the table is loose, bluffing won't work (as you assumed). If the table is tight, it's a little easier to bluff, but if you get called/reraised pre or postflop, get out.
Posted Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:32 pm GMT by Geno
Play tighter than a duck's ass and as soon as you get AA, KK, QQ or AKs, get all your chips in the middle one way or another. That's some +EV advice right there 
Posted Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:05 am GMT by Muck
Bluff isn’t compulsory in poker, it’s a means to profit from tight players because they wont pay you off on your strong hands. If they always call there’s no need to bluff because they will pay you off on your strong hands (which is safer).
Later, when the game get short handed you’ll need to get more aggressive but don’t confuse this with bluffing. You will be playing poorer cards but the reduced competition increases the chance you’re ahead.
General Bluffing Advice:
Don’t try and bluff if you think the person is likely call. Obvious but some people still miss it.
Try to bluff with outs, i.e. semi-bluff. E.g. Betting a draw hand.
Try to avoid attempting to bluff if there’s more than one player in the hand.
Make intelligent bluffs. E.g. On scary cards or after you’ve represented strength but missed.
Try to judge the size of your bluff bets by observing what people fold to at the table.
Posted Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:05 pm GMT by Loonbat
And yes - I made a poor preflop call 
Know the table and the players ... not shorthanded, just a bluff example:
PokerStars Game #2508810177: Tournament #12088584, Hold'em No Limit -
Level XII (1000/2000) - 2005/09/05 - 22:50:47 (ET)
Table '12088584 207' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Loonbat (29673 in chips)
Seat 2: TaK-47 (43613 in chips)
Seat 3: 1WPTPlayer (21330 in chips)
Seat 4: DaWiLdOnE (21156 in chips)
Seat 5: escalade (26151 in chips)
Seat 6: fitzishott (41119 in chips)
Seat 7: Nathan02 (36128 in chips)
Seat 8: Shroomin (71555 in chips)
Seat 9: BigGuyAces (19556 in chips)
Loonbat: posts the ante 100
TaK-47: posts the ante 100
1WPTPlayer: posts the ante 100
DaWiLdOnE: posts the ante 100
escalade: posts the ante 100
fitzishott: posts the ante 100
Nathan02: posts the ante 100
Shroomin: posts the ante 100
BigGuyAces: posts the ante 100
escalade: posts small blind 1000
fitzishott: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Loonbat  
Shroomin said, "suited connectors are a good hand to go allin with"
DaWiLdOnE said, "leave it WPT to steal though"
fitzishott said, "ya but rpob shouldnt of been callin wiht 109"
Nathan02: folds
Shroomin: folds
BigGuyAces: folds
Loonbat: calls 2000
TaK-47: folds
1WPTPlayer: folds
DaWiLdOnE: folds
escalade: folds
fitzishott said, "d"
fitzishott: raises 6000 to 8000
Loonbat: calls 6000
*** FLOP ***   
Shroomin said, "60-40 to two random high cards"
1WPTPlayer said, "I had a bunch of limpers 66 was best"
fitzishott: checks
Loonbat said, "like that flop?"
Loonbat said, "I don't mind it"
Loonbat: bets 6250
fitzishott said, " pkt jacks"
fitzishott said, "gotat fold"
fitzishott: folds
Loonbat collected 17900 from pot
Loonbat: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17900 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: Loonbat collected (17900)
Seat 2: TaK-47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 1WPTPlayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DaWiLdOnE (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: escalade (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: fitzishott (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Nathan02 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shroomin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BigGuyAces folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Posted Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:18 pm GMT by ReR3ise
See the Book of Bluffs for that, quite a good book on the subject if you ask me. Got good review on the net as well.
Posted Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:44 am GMT by turkeyspanka
Wow loon, you had nothing and the guy folded w/JJ. That's a really nice buy lol. I loved the side talk, too. No one ever does that at any of my tables. 
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