Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:19 am GMT by Phil14312
2/4 limit
I have 5  7 in the BB. EP raiser, 1 MP caller and folds to me. I call.
Pot: 3.5 BB
Flop: 10  3 6
I check. Original raiser bets, 2 folds and I call. Its a little loose but I'm getting 9-1 on a gutshot, plus I can make up at least one bet on the turn or river b/c my hand will be disguised. A spade on the turn makes my hand stronger as well.
Pot: 4.5 BB
Turn: 5 
Now it gives me a pair and a gutshot straight draw for 9 outs to two-pair or better. I check and EP bets, I call getting 6.5-1.
Pot: 6.5 BB
River 2 
I check, EP bets. I'm getting 8.5-1 on a call here that my pair stands up. I call. He shows AK and I win.
I get called Nemo. Am I a fish?
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Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:04 am GMT by Idaho
You were getting 9-1 on a runner runner - which and you finally hit 3rd pair to a two raises... and you called and won 
I would say that the only reason to play like that was to try and tilt your opponents - it was dreadful!
Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:19 am GMT by BncStylee
I probably wouldn't have called the extra bet pre-flop since you always have to act first which sucks with the starting hand you had...
But if I would have seen the flop I would have raised his bet on the flop... most pre-flop raisers have two high cards such as AK (I wonder what % of the pre-flop raises are actually high pp)... if the flop is all medium or low cards you could pretend that you made trips or 2 pair since you were in the BB...
If the original raiser calls your raise with AK then there's a chance that he wont bet the turn cuz he's scared you might check-raise him...
Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:46 am GMT by supafrey
The problem with these kind of situations is that there will always be SOME reason to call if you look for it.
Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:54 am GMT by Skribbles
The guy lost with A high and got mad.
Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:52 pm GMT by suitedaces84
There's nothing wrong with that hand. Unless the PFR is known to have a very low PFR% or will showdown A high I c/r that flop and lead the turn.
btw, his river bet was extremely fishy. What worse hands could you call with? What better hands could you fold?
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:50 am GMT by age_of_sages
I don't necessarily mind your play here. I'm tending to call the flop then bet out on the turn, that should give me all the information I need to know.
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:26 pm GMT by snoogins47
| suitedaces84 wrote: | | There's nothing wrong with that hand. |
Posted Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:47 am GMT by JohnnyCache
| Idaho wrote: | You were getting 9-1 on a runner runner - which and you finally hit 3rd pair to a two raises... and you called and won
I would say that the only reason to play like that was to try and tilt your opponents - it was dreadful! |
Your play on the latter streets was ok for the outs to the pot, but you need to evaluate if you want to be in this situation all the time. I would say at that stake it will be worth it based on the times you hit the out and can raise up the hand, but I am known for being nuts.
Posted Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:40 pm GMT by Phil14312
| Idaho wrote: | You were getting 9-1 on a runner runner - which and you finally hit 3rd pair to a two raises... and you called and won
I would say that the only reason to play like that was to try and tilt your opponents - it was dreadful! |
I didn't need runner runner.
Posted Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:22 pm GMT by TheSalche
finely played ... really the place where he could try to whine at you is preflop, but you're getting 5 to 1 on a suited one gapper ... a hand you like to see a flop with
id prolly whine if i were him too, but im a bitch 
Posted Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:32 pm GMT by zeroswarm
Not sure I really like this.
The pre flop play is certainly questionable though its not that bad a ploy to call the odd raise with a hand like 7 5.
But this is limit, right, which I never play anyway. Totally different game from nl where u might have ended up all in or something if u had gone to the showdown.
All in all I aint qualified to comment.
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