$75 multi-table tourney final table... 2 hands... |
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Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:39 pm GMT by screwthepooch
Just looking for ideas on whether there was really any other way to play these two hands that took me from top 3 with 9 players remaining (payout was for top 9) to finishing 6th place. (I won $400, but really felt I had played well enough for top 3. I say top 3 because it is almost a crap shoot at that point unless you are dominating in chips.)
Anyway, hand 1:
FullTiltPoker Game #209988864: $3,500 Guarantee (1296641), Table 1 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:40:01 ET - 2005/09/07
Seat 1: Doikito (18,090)
Seat 3: Nelly Time (10,924)
Seat 4: OsoGrande (12,686)
Seat 6: luv2bang (18,219)
Seat 7: ScrewThePooch (26,798)
Seat 8: hathman23 (31,620)
Seat 9: Boyko (27,163)
Doikito antes 100
Nelly Time antes 100
OsoGrande antes 100
luv2bang antes 100
ScrewThePooch antes 100
hathman23 antes 100
Boyko antes 100
ScrewThePooch posts the small blind of 400
hathman23 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScrewThePooch  
Boyko folds
Doikito folds
Nelly Time folds
OsoGrande folds
luv2bang raises to 3,500
ScrewThePooch calls 3,100
hathman23 folds
*** FLOP ***   
ScrewThePooch bets 5,500
luv2bang has 15 seconds left to act
luv2bang calls 5,500
*** TURN *** 
ScrewThePooch checks
luv2bang checks
*** RIVER *** 
ScrewThePooch checks
luv2bang checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ScrewThePooch shows (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
luv2bang shows   (a flush, Ace high)
luv2bang wins the pot (19,500) with a flush, Ace high
Hand 2:
FullTiltPoker Game #209997156: $3,500 Guarantee (1296641), Table 1 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:47:31 ET - 2005/09/07
Seat 1: Doikito (15,765)
Seat 3: Nelly Time (7,724)
Seat 4: OsoGrande (7,636)
Seat 6: luv2bang (64,664)
Seat 7: ScrewThePooch (14,723)
Seat 9: Boyko (34,988)
Doikito antes 125
Nelly Time antes 125
OsoGrande antes 125
luv2bang antes 125
ScrewThePooch antes 125
Boyko antes 125
luv2bang posts the small blind of 500
ScrewThePooch posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScrewThePooch  
Boyko raises to 2,000
Doikito folds
Nelly Time folds
OsoGrande folds
luv2bang folds
ScrewThePooch raises to 14,598, and is all in
Boyko: k pup..
Boyko calls 12,598
ScrewThePooch shows
Boyko shows 
*** FLOP ***   
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
ScrewThePooch shows a pair of Queens
Boyko shows a flush, Ace high
Boyko wins the pot (30,446) with a flush, Ace high
(side note: I saw his AJ to my AQ and when the flop included the Queen, I didn't even see the flush and was sure I had won. I honestly thought there was a computer glitch when the money went his way! LOL. Effing terrible luck.)
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Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:44 pm GMT by bluef0x
hand 1: played fine, only thing could have changed is either reraised pf or raising the flop more.
hand 2: belongs in the bad beat section
Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:51 pm GMT by screwthepooch
| bluef0x wrote: | hand 1: played fine, only thing could have changed is either reraised pf or raising the flop more.
hand 2: belongs in the bad beat section |
funny thing about hand 2 is that I earlier had AJ and had raised pre-flop to about 3K. When this other guy goes all-in for 13K (which was about half my chip stack), I had made the wise decision and folded. He showed AA (which of course made me feel that much better.) So, it really pained me to see someone else make that poor decision and get rewarded for it. Frustrating, but what can you do? Next 4 times it happens, I will be thanking him for his crappy play.
Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:56 pm GMT by Cyberhwk
| screwthepooch wrote: |
*** TURN ***
ScrewThePooch checks
luv2bang checks
*** RIVER ***
ScrewThePooch checks
luv2bang checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ScrewThePooch shows (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
luv2bang shows (a flush, Ace high)
luv2bang wins the pot (19,500) with a flush, Ace high
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He checks his ace-high flush...TWICE!!! LOL!!!
Posted Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:10 pm GMT by crack
Reraise preflop in hand 1.
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:38 am GMT by Nut Flush
| Quote: | | He checks his ace-high flush...TWICE!!! LOL!!! |
What's wrong with that? He checked the turn hoping to induce a bet from his opponent on the river. Once the river paired the board, he no longer had the nuts. You're only gonna get called, or worse, re-raised by a hand that beats you. A check here is fine.
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:27 am GMT by 1988 TR
| Nut Flush wrote: | | Quote: | | He checks his ace-high flush...TWICE!!! LOL!!! |
What's wrong with that? He checked the turn hoping to induce a bet from his opponent on the river. Once the river paired the board, he no longer had the nuts. You're only gonna get called, or worse, re-raised by a hand that beats you. A check here is fine. |
I think you can throw a bet out there - A high club would likely call. $3k would be a good bet.
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:54 am GMT by Nut Flush
| Quote: | | I think you can throw a bet out there - A high club would likely call. $3k would be a good bet. |
Sure a high club may call, but what would you do if your opponent suddenly woke up and came over the top all in? Since we know what ScrewThePooch had, it's easy to say "I'd call and win with my Ace high flush".
But let's pretend for discussion that ScrewThePooch doesn't have AJ. He/she called your preflop raise, then led out and bet on the flop. Turn brings a 4th club and you both check. River pairs the board, ScrewThePooch checks and you decide to bet 3k. Now ScrewThePooch goes all-in. What do you do? Are you confident your nut flush is still good?
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:14 am GMT by Loonbat
| Nut Flush wrote: | | Once the river paired the board, he no longer had the nuts. You're only gonna get called, or worse, re-raised by a hand that beats you. A check here is fine. |
I disagree - trips will pay off flushes nicely.
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:53 am GMT by 1988 TR
| Nut Flush wrote: | | Quote: | | I think you can throw a bet out there - A high club would likely call. $3k would be a good bet. |
Sure a high club may call, but what would you do if your opponent suddenly woke up and came over the top all in? Since we know what ScrewThePooch had, it's easy to say "I'd call and win with my Ace high flush".
But let's pretend for discussion that ScrewThePooch doesn't have AJ. He/she called your preflop raise, then led out and bet on the flop. Turn brings a 4th club and you both check. River pairs the board, ScrewThePooch checks and you decide to bet 3k. Now ScrewThePooch goes all-in. What do you do? Are you confident your nut flush is still good? |
I lay it down (maybe).
But 3k with their balances, isn't going to kill you.
They are in the hand heads up at a short handed table I can't play everyhand fearing the worst.
There are more hands that will make a losing call than there are boat possibilites.
I can see just about any club calling, a 10, or even the AJ pooch had.
If he bet 3k on the river, the pot is 22,500. There are a ton of hands worth a 3k call with 7.5:1 pot odds.
Posted Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:40 am GMT by howzit
bet the river. . .you leave too much $ on the table w/trips and the king of clubs.
if he raises, feel sick about it. Probably fold.
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