Calling Range from the SB |
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Posted Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:29 pm GMT by TheSalche
Say you're in the SB during a tournament or a cash game (i.e. your stack is large compared to the blinds), and theres one caller of the BB somewhere ahead of you, folded to you, you're getting 5 to 1 to complete the BB. Assuming the BB WON'T raise 90% of the time, what is your calling range here?
What if its 7 to 1?
What about calling a min raise from the BB?
How much does your calling range shrink as your BBs starts to drop to 25? 20? 15? 10? etc.
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Posted Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:10 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
i dont exactly like calling form SB unless i have some sort of hand either high connectors like t9 and up,
maybe i'll call with 45s and up, pocket pairs and two cards above T
but i will be on tigher side of this early in tournament or SNG
in ring games its a bit different i might be more on loser side there
Posted Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:43 pm GMT by tame_deuces
I'd probably call with connectors, AXs and better hands. Normally not the best of hands with only 3 players in the pot, but I'd figure the lower price would make up for it. I'd fold most trouble hands with large spread because I don't like playing those out of position.
No problem for me calling a min-raise from the BB either, good odds and being the one closing the betting.
The more aggressive the player on the BB, the more I tighten up what I call with. Nothing good comes from throwing around chips with hands that have to improve to be ahead if he'll move in when I'm behind.
As the BBs shrink in tourneys so does the hands I call with. Only with an ok stack would I fool around with 'drawing' hands in tournaments. Drawing can drain a average stack to zilch, even with good pot odds, and I don't enjoy semi-bluffing in unraised pots.
Posted Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:48 am GMT by Loonbat
Assuming no raise 90% of the time from the BB and I'm getting 7-1 on my call, there is very little I won't see when sitting in the SB. It depends on my read on the other players though, other than just the BB.
- Have I seen them limp (or limp/reraise) with big hands?
- What types of hands do they like to see cheaply?
- What are the positions in which they limped?
Taking these factors into account, I might find a 65o plays better than a T9o, simply because of what they tend to play.
Posted Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:01 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Salche,
Let me see if I got this right. I'm in the SB and only one person has limped in. Everyone else has folded and it is to me.
I would limp in with just about any two cards if given a 7:1 pot odds. If I had something decent I would min raise for sure. If a PP or AX comes along then I would do better then a min raise to try to win the pot right there.
This is just my way of playing though. You play higher limits then I do and I know these higher limits can change the way people play.
Posted Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:08 pm GMT by crack
Hmmm, I think there's far too many variables to give a complete answer.
I think it's going to depend on it being a cash game or a tournament and exactly how large my stack was compared to the blinds.
i am not going to be calling with any two suited. In fact in a tournament depending on who limped I may be raising the majority of the time if I am going to play in the SB and try and take it down. The hands I will be playing I don't really want to let the BB in for free. I think against 2 players you are not really needing to hit a set to take it down or another monster, depending on the players of course.
In a cash game I would probably tend to be a bit more passive than in tournaments. I think that is about the only general difference I would have.
So basically, my calling range would be very limited with one limper and the BB. Infact, I doubt I could actually say it unless I was in the hand and in the game. So it really is going t depend on the type of game it is.
Posted Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:45 pm GMT by Loonbat
| UrAteUp wrote: | Salche,
Let me see if I got this right. I'm in the SB and only one person has limped in. Everyone else has folded and it is to me.
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If he's getting 7 to 1, this means the BB and 2 limpers are in.
Posted Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:09 pm GMT by Ciso_B
I'd call with everything to be honest, if no raise and its small compared to my stack why not?
As long as you have enough feel to know where you're at and are willing to fold hands easily enough,i mean if theres limpers and im getting enough odds , it would be foolish not to. Position doesnt worry me either, even though im utg post flop I will only bet if i am confident i have best of it, nothing better then a "blind special". Just my thoughts.
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