Posted Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:12 pm GMT by Phil14312
Man this sucked...I tried to slowplay AA on the flop. What do you do??
Seat 1: pryor15 ($45.60 in chips)
Seat 2: system2112 ($58.10 in chips)
Seat 3: celesteclub ACAH ($212 in chips)
Seat 4: tc0690 ($159 in chips)
Seat 5: Big Wad ($58.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Psych7 ($196 in chips)
Seat 7: B8ender11 ($39.80 in chips)
Seat 8: vn747 ($123.90 in chips)
Seat 9: Gidde_up ($223 in chips)
Seat 10: AMVegas ($106.40 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
system2112 posts blind ($1), celesteclub posts blind ($2).
PRE-FLOP
tc0690 folds,
Big Wad folds,
Psych7 folds,
B8ender11 folds,
vn747 folds,
Gidde_up bets $4,
AMVegas bets $6,
pryor15 folds,
system2112 folds,
celesteclub calls $4,
Gidde_up calls $2.
FLOP board cards 2S3D8H
celesteclub checks,
Gidde_up bets $2,
AMVegas calls $2,
celesteclub bets $4,
Gidde_up bets $4,
AMVegas calls $4,
celesteclub bets $4,
Gidde_up calls $2,
AMVegas calls $2.
TURN board cards 2S3D8H4D
celesteclub bets $4,
Gidde_up bets $8,
AMVegas bets $12,
celesteclub ????
P.S. I hate these hand histories.
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:37 pm GMT by crack
Don't look like you tried to slowplay on the flop. I think you meant preflop. I prefer the cap here most of the time. Get the money in and build a big pot.
Seeing as one raised and the other reraised preflop, would you not put them on big cards?
Are any of these the type of players who would open raise or reraise with 88, 33 or 22? If not then I can't see how you can be afriad here. That turn is hardly a danger except it brings two diamons for a flush draw. After the action preflop and the flop I can't see many players in full handed play A5 like that, but you know the players.
The turn I would be quite happy to continue raising I would think.
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:15 am GMT by greathuskie
for me, i think the proper thing to do would be to fold...however i wuld prolly check-call
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:02 am GMT by tame_deuces
I'd raise this one. You picked up a straight draw too.
Though my ma always said I was too optimistic.
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:53 am GMT by JohnnyCache
What got you? A set or 5,6? AIM had 56d? Or am I giving too much credit?
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:54 am GMT by UrAteUp
I don't play around with AA. Never have and never will. When that hand was raised I would have went over the top and put my faith in the AA almighty. The only way AA gets beat most times is if you slow play it.
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:18 am GMT by crack
| greathuskie wrote: | | for me, i think the proper thing to do would be to fold...however i wuld prolly check-call |
Check call where? Why do you think you should fold? What's your thought process?
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:40 pm GMT by Phil14312
I meant slow-play pre-flop by just calling the 3-bet and not capping. I figured player 1 was using position to raise, player 2 realized this and could 3-bet with a wide range of hands (all of which I'm beating). Therefore instead of completely telling them both I had AA or KK, I just called.
I check-raised the flop and original bettor 3-bet and I capped.
Now I lead out on the turn and not only does Player 1 not fear my bets because he raises, but now Player 2 wakes up and puts in a 3rd bet after just calling and calling. To me...that smelled like he had 88 for top set.
I just didn't think my hand was good after all that action against two players. I thought I was likely drawing real thin and folded the turn.
Turns out Player 1 (open-raiser) has 66 and Player 2 has the 2 other Aces. We woulda chopped.
What makes me a little mad is how can Player 1 with 66 raise the turn on me when I capped the pot on the flop and lead the turn with an overcard to his 6 showing? Him raising the turn and it gets 3-bet back to me is why I folded. Ahhh, oh well.
Crack...really nice analysis. But, open-raising with 88 or even 3-betting a LP raiser pre-flop isn't out of the question as an isolation raise. I was scared because Player 2 woke up on the turn and it smelled like 88.
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:03 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Even after reading your explanation of why you played your AA this way I still go back to my original statement. Never slow play AA. I do have to retract my statement that I have never slow played AA. I have twice since I started playing poker online. Once was when I was heads up in a tournament and I had made a set on the flop. The second time was early in a SNG when the flop produced AA and gave me the nut hand.
Posted Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:38 pm GMT by crack
"What makes me a little mad is how can Player 1 with 66 raise the turn on me when I capped the pot on the flop and lead the turn with an overcard to his 6 showing?"
Welcome to Low Limit Hold'em. 
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