Some Omaha Hands for your viewing pleasure |
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Posted Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:20 pm GMT by TheSalche
25 PL-Omaha ... blinds at .10/.25
Hand 1
Hero has about $20, villain same
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheSalche    
7 players to see un-raised flop
** Dealing Flop ** :   
Checks around
** Dealing Turn ** : 
Villain bets (1.80)
TheSalche calls (1.80)
table folds around
** Dealing River ** : 
Villain checks.
TheSalche checks.
Hand 2
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheSalche 
7 players see an un-raised pot
** Dealing Flop ** :   
Villain1 bets (1.70)
TheSalche calls (1.70)
Villain 2 calls (1.70)
others folded
** Dealing Turn ** : 
Villain2 checks.
Villain1 checks.
TheSalche bets (4)
Villain2 folds.
Villain1 calls (4)
** Dealing River ** : 
Villain1 checks.
TheSalche checks.
Anybody bet that river? Or pot the turn?
Hand 3
Dealt to TheSalche   
6 players see unraised pot
** Dealing Flop ** :  
Villain bets (1.45)
TheSalche raises (2.90) to 2.90
Villain calls (1.45)
** Dealing Turn ** : 
TheSalche bets (4)
Villain calls (4)
** Dealing River ** :
TheSalche bets (10)
Villain calls (10)
Max value there? Raise flop differently?
Maybe I'll post more later ...
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Posted Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:43 pm GMT by Loonbat
I'm confused ... you don't bet bottom set in the first hand on the flop with 2 to a str8 on the board (when you really should be chasing people out), but then raise the nuts with hand 3 on the flop??
Posted Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:43 pm GMT by TheSalche
| Loonbat wrote: | | I'm confused ... you don't bet bottom set in the first hand on the flop with 2 to a str8 on the board (when you really should be chasing people out), but then raise the nuts with hand 3 on the flop?? |
good you're paying attention :D
flop check was a failed check raise ... i was hoping a flush draw would bet here, and then i could raise them, possibly out of the pot ... obviously i would've been dead at the turn even if this had worked
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:11 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Hand 1: This is not a very good hand in PLO, especially in the early positions. You have no suited cards, only middle connectors, and a small pair. That's not strong holdings in a game like this where you're trying to make the nuts. Calling on the turn is a bad play, because there is a straight and flush against you, and even if you fill up, you might end up second-best (the danger of small pairs in Omaha). Check-raise isn't needed on the flop. Bet out and see what you're up against.
Hand 2: This is a better hand, but it's weaker because you're holding 3 diamonds and only middle connectors (overall a much better hand though). I'd say it's playable only from middle or later position. Flop isn't bad, as you have the nut flush draw along with top pair, but I'd probably just take a free card off the turn and hope for a showdown on the river--I don't see what you're hoping to gain by betting a draw on 4th street. You have basically no hand on the river, so there's no point in betting, especially since it's such a loose table.
Hand 3: Another decent hand, but also lacking due to the absence of any flush draws. Aside from the pair of Q's, this hand has little value to it on most flops--again I hope you're not playing this up front. NOW you're correct to slowplay on the flop, since you have an essentially unbeatable hand. Let someone draw--I might not raise until the river here, and then jam a pot-bet into the pot to make him pay. I wouldn't raise until at least the turn, because there's little money there on the flop and you want him to pay your quads off big.
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:52 am GMT by Nut Flush
| Quote: | | I don't see what you're hoping to gain by betting a draw on 4th street |
He has tp tk, nut flush draw, and any 3, 6, 7, or 8 will give him the nuts as well. I'd bet that turn too. That's what, 16 outs to either make the nut straight or flush? add 3 more Aces and 3 Kings for either trips or 2 pair and you're now looking at 22 total outs, 16 of them to the nuts. Granted top pair is rarely good in Omaha but it just might win in thise case. The river sucks and I'd probably check there as well.
Hand 1) I hate low pairs in Omaha, too much trouble. Even though it's tempting when you ahve 3 connectors it can get you into trouble.
Hand 3) In an unraised pot, I'll limp as well with a big pair, and just like you were hoping, that flop hit you pretty good :D Was the villain trying to make astraight with a paired board? Post his screen name please :D
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:41 pm GMT by TheSalche
In response to DiamondCutter's post (quoteing just too much space here)
In the style of games on PP, about 75 - 85% of the flops go unraised, so mediocre looking hands like these that I played I was willing to give up to a raise (except the 2nd one probably). I play hands like QQxx like I would play pocket 6's in NLHE, limp in and try to get in cheap to see a set, and most likely get out otherwise.
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