A8 against random hand heads up |
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Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:09 pm GMT by Ciso_B
Say you have A 8  heads up whats its stats against a random hand? I was jus curious.
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Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:15 pm GMT by suitedaces84
A8o has 59.9% equity vs a random hand. A 8 has 61.9% equity vs a random hand. I'm still not sure how that works if you change the suits.
This thread is lame.
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:22 pm GMT by Ciso_B
I was curious cos i had A8 4 times today heads up sng , folded 3 times to an all in, called one and was behind to a pair. The guy was a bit of a freak so that why i ask "random" cos this guy literally was going all in with trash imo.
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:42 pm GMT by Dave B
I rarely fold A8 preflop heads up. I could almost say never.
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:56 pm GMT by Ciso_B
with Blinds high id call most of the time, but when blinds are like $10/$20 and my stack is $1,000 why risk my stack with that when im not committed in anyway....I was more confident of outplaying post flop then going all in pre flop so early on.
I called him with A8 and he had 33. The other times i didnt see.
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:09 pm GMT by Dave B
I dont play heads up much w/ low blinds.
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:29 pm GMT by TheSalche
i think from harrington's 2nd book i read that ace 8 is sort of the 'borderline' ace for pushing ... half aces are better, half aces are worse
i push with it short stacked everytime in an SnG and live with the results ... HU with high blinds I do the same thing and live with the results
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:24 pm GMT by Moon_Child
A8 is fact a really interesting hand... i was told i should raise if i was on the button if i had A8 or better, but i never really understood what i was suppose to do? try to hit an ace? play my position?
for heads up i play an aces... love it more if its suited. i'm not a stats person but if the odds is good then make the decisions based on odds.
Posted Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:07 am GMT by Muck
| suitedaces84 wrote: | | A8o has 59.9% equity vs a random hand. A 8 has 61.9% equity vs a random hand. |
Wow that’s much lower than I would have thought! I must be really overrating A8 heads up :
Posted Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:18 am GMT by Moon_Child
| Muck wrote: | | suitedaces84 wrote: | | A8o has 59.9% equity vs a random hand. A 8 has 61.9% equity vs a random hand. |
Wow that’s much lower than I would have thought! I must be really overrating A8 heads up : |
i don't think that its overrated. it is infact a really good starting hand becuase you are usually ahead preflop. when you hit ur aces, most likely its good enough to take down the pot. any face card is good too but i would fold K2 to 8 and other rags. mediocre hands go up in value too.
Posted Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:12 am GMT by Ciso_B
A8 is good hand heads up, but the only point i made was even though i knew "statistically" i was ahead most of the time prolly when the guy was going all in that my chances maybe 61% going in pre flop i felt my odds of winning were greater playing post flop , where maybe id give myself 75% chance of winning.
The reason i asked for the stats ,was to determine whether it was wortwhile folding it even when the blinds were small, if its equity is in the region of 70% i d have regretted not calling lol, especially since it ends the game quicker .
Posted Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:51 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Weak aces will very often run into coinflip situations against very aggressive players head's up. Often against KT,QT,QJ, JT etc. But also a lot of other holdings. That is usually a a good result for the aggressive player, stealing alot of pots and blinds and trying to get the opponent into a coinflip is pretty okay. Might stumble into something good, but so be it. 
Posted Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:40 am GMT by Jauron
If a guy keeps moving in on me all the time heads up I will call him with A8 and live with the results. I'll call him with nearly any Ace in fact. I will also consider calling with KQ-K10 or any pair. If he's doing it litteraly every time I might even need to make a stand with QJ-J10 if I can't find a hand.
If you try to wait for a big pair or a strong Ace heads up, you will be loosing blinds at an incredible rate, unless the blinds are very low.
The all in move is a strong one, it really puts the pressure on you to find a hand. The only real way to counter act it is to widen the range of hands you can call with. He's willing to gamble to win, at some point you'll need to do the same.
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