Posted Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:31 am GMT by MJFly
Howdy. Purely theoretical. Preflop, odds wise, am I right that 56 suited is the best chance at beating AA?
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Posted Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:34 am GMT by Jauron
If it's a different suite than AA holds then yes, but by such a slim margin over other middle suited connecters I am not sure it's even worth being considered. 0.1% better than say 67s
Your only slightly ahead of say JJ with different suites as well to put it in perspective.
Posted Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:53 pm GMT by Ninja
What I don't understand is why 56s is just as good as 67s; won't the two Aces the other player hold hurt the chances of a straight Ace-five?
Posted Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:01 pm GMT by suitedaces84
| Ninja wrote: | | What I don't understand is why 56s is just as good as 67s; won't the two Aces the other player hold hurt the chances of a straight Ace-five? |
It won't hurt 56s chances at a straight because 56 doesn't need the A, all it needs is 234.
Posted Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:04 am GMT by fiezk
| Jauron wrote: | | If it's a different suite than AA holds then yes, but by such a slim margin over other middle suited connecters I am not sure it's even worth being considered. 0.1% better than say 67s |
it's the same. Same for 78s as well. The reason for this is that a flop that would make a straight for you can't make a higher straight for the AA
Posted Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:10 am GMT by 1988 TR
| fiezk wrote: | | Jauron wrote: | | If it's a different suite than AA holds then yes, but by such a slim margin over other middle suited connecters I am not sure it's even worth being considered. 0.1% better than say 67s |
it's the same. Same for 78s as well. The reason for this is that a flop that would make a straight for you can't make a higher straight for the AA |
It is not the same. 56s is slightly better.
The high end of the straight for 78 would be 9 10 J Q. A king would then make a higher straight for the A.
With 56, the high straight would be 7 8 9 10. The J would then split the pot, not win it for the Ace.
When I run the odds for 56 and 67, 56 comes out better by .1%. Does anyone know why that would be??? I can't figure that one out. Seems like 56 and 67 should be the same.
Posted Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:52 pm GMT by gumbie
| 1988 TR wrote: |
When I run the odds for 56 and 67, 56 comes out better by .1%. Does anyone know why that would be??? I can't figure that one out. Seems like 56 and 67 should be the same. |
I think they should be exactly the same too.
Which odds calculator are you using?
Posted Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:45 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| gumbie wrote: | | 1988 TR wrote: |
When I run the odds for 56 and 67, 56 comes out better by .1%. Does anyone know why that would be??? I can't figure that one out. Seems like 56 and 67 should be the same. |
I think they should be exactly the same too.
Which odds calculator are you using? |
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Posted Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:54 pm GMT by TheSalche
no offense ... this post is pointless ...
you're best chance at beating AA preflop is folding
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p.s. sorry im pissed off, i just lost a very nice 7CS pot at which i had aces up by 5th street, some ahole with total junk up, something like K5103 maybe 2 of same suit calls me down to the river and catches the CASE 5 (other one was dead) ... unless he was rolled up, which he played about as passively as possible
f**k bees
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