Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:29 pm GMT by zinn0
.5/1 NL...
Very first hand after I sit down, I get AQ  , folded to me, I make it $4 to go. Folded around to guy 1 off the button, and he gives me the dreaded min-raise. I call and we see the flop.
Flop 6  2 2  not good for me I'm thinking. I check, villian bets $1??? What would you do here?
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Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:55 pm GMT by Soup_dog
Ugh. That hurts. I think I would fold and wait for a better opportunity. i.e. a better read and a better flop. Let him have this win, and take it back from him later.
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:25 pm GMT by Phil14312
I wouldn't fold for a dollar thats for sure.
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:31 pm GMT by Soup_dog
Well, it sure looks like a trap to me. If you pay the dollar you are basically hoping for an ace on the turn or river... He will probably bet another dollar... or more on the turn and then big on the river. I would rather lay it down now than lay it down on the river after you have missed your outs. But heck, thats probably why I'm not a consistently winning poker player.
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:33 pm GMT by zinn0
Well, I called the dollar. The turn brought the Q  , but I still wasn't thrilled with my hand. I checked it again, and once again, the guy puts out a dollar. Now I'm starting to think that he is playing AK. Do I call here or raise to see where I am?
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:43 pm GMT by Soup_dog
well, all you have done is improve your hand. If you were willing to call the dollare on the flop I can't imagine folding for another dollar after you hit the turn. That's not a bad thought about him playing an AK.
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:53 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Phil14312 wrote: | | I wouldn't fold for a dollar thats for sure. |
I would. That looks like a really dangerous value bet. I don't want to hit an ace or queen that may cost me more money if I'm drawing dead. You correctly raised with AQs, you missed the flop, and you can't chase in NL if you hit NOTHING on the flop.
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:57 pm GMT by zinn0
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | I would. That looks like a really dangerous value bet. I don't want to hit an ace or queen that may cost me more money if I'm drawing dead. You correctly raised with AQs, you missed the flop, and you can't chase in NL if you hit NOTHING on the flop. |
I should listen to you much more often my friend. I raised his turn bet to $4, and he only called. The river was a rag, and once again, I thought I was had, so I checked it to him. He bets, $2 this time. A $2 bet into a roughly $26 dollar pot. I called. Anybody dare guess what he had?
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:27 pm GMT by Soup_dog
Pocket Kings?
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:27 pm GMT by Soup_dog
| zinn0 wrote: | | xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | I would. That looks like a really dangerous value bet. I don't want to hit an ace or queen that may cost me more money if I'm drawing dead. You correctly raised with AQs, you missed the flop, and you can't chase in NL if you hit NOTHING on the flop. |
I should listen to you much more often my friend. I raised his turn bet to $4, and he only called. The river was a rag, and once again, I thought I was had, so I checked it to him. He bets, $2 this time. A $2 bet into a roughly $26 dollar pot. I called. Anybody dare guess what he had? |
Hey wait! You will listen to him but not me? Sheesh. I feel slighted.
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:35 pm GMT by zinn0
| Soup_dog wrote: | | Hey wait! You will listen to him but not me? Sheesh. I feel slighted. |
I didn't say that! It's just that I've gotten so much advice and a lot of help with my game from Cutter...that's all.
You are right my good man. I figured this out just before I called the $2 river bet.
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:08 pm GMT by Jauron
I don't think you did anything wrong this hand except the end, if you thought you had him why check to him on the river only to call it down?
I don't mind the check at the end, and the call, but the thinking I have you so I'll check is a weak play unless the guy is wreckless and you want to check raise him.
Just my $0.02
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:29 pm GMT by zinn0
| Jauron wrote: | I don't think you did anything wrong this hand except the end, if you thought you had him why check to him on the river only to call it down?
I don't mind the check at the end, and the call, but the thinking I have you so I'll check is a weak play unless the guy is wreckless and you want to check raise him.
Just my $0.02 |
Jauron, I think you mis-read my post. I said I thought I was had. I thought for sure I had been trapped after the weak $2 bet on the river.
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:36 am GMT by Phil14312
On the flop you are getting better than 10:1. I'm sorry but I only fold if he shows me pocket aces. Pocket kings you are getting about even money on the call. Plus the times he has pocket queens or pocket jacks makes this a plus EV play.
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:47 am GMT by ScanX
I call the flop and lead the turn for 2/3 of the pot, whatever the turn card is
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:02 am GMT by Jauron
| zinn0 wrote: | | Jauron wrote: | I don't think you did anything wrong this hand except the end, if you thought you had him why check to him on the river only to call it down?
I don't mind the check at the end, and the call, but the thinking I have you so I'll check is a weak play unless the guy is wreckless and you want to check raise him.
Just my $0.02 |
Jauron, I think you mis-read my post. I said I thought I was had. I thought for sure I had been trapped after the weak $2 bet on the river. |
Sorry I did mis-read it...
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:43 pm GMT by Phil14312
| ScanX wrote: | | I call the flop and lead the turn for 2/3 of the pot, whatever the turn card is |
I like it.
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:19 pm GMT by zinn0
| ScanX wrote: | | I call the flop and lead the turn for 2/3 of the pot, whatever the turn card is |
and if I'm raised what then? I would have TPTK...
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:46 pm GMT by Moon_Child
call him down... only 1 dollar... if he decides to make a huge over bet on the river, then fold... if not call it down and see how he plays, note him afterwards.
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:29 pm GMT by ScanX
| zinn0 wrote: | | ScanX wrote: | | I call the flop and lead the turn for 2/3 of the pot, whatever the turn card is |
and if I'm raised what then? I would have TPTK... |
depends on the player but generaly speakin :
give up
might sound weak but even if u hit, I'm almost positive that u're beat more than 50% of the time.
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