How was my play ( A Few Hand Histories) |
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Posted Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:29 am GMT by UrAteUp
Please take a look at these various hand histories and give me your thoughts. Did I play them right? Should I have played them?
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$5 - NL - 9 Seats 5557412-13 Holdem No Limit 30/60
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Hand Start.
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 1 : walldo has $1,800
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 3 : edabs58 has $4,270
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 4 : fishermandon has $1,640
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 5 : kypimp has $1,820
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 6 : crazzyc333 has $1,670
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 7 : abigfan has $2,280
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 8 : Boozehound1 has $2,270
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 9 : BlackJackJ has $2,250
Nov 17 01:14:37 : crazzyc333 is the dealer.
Nov 17 01:14:37 : abigfan posted small blind.
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Boozehound1 posted big blind.
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Game 13 started with 8 players.
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Nov 17 01:14:37 : Seat 7 : abigfan has Ad 9c
Nov 17 01:14:38 : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 2 min.
Nov 17 01:14:50 : BlackJackJ has 10 seconds to respond.
Nov 17 01:14:52 : BlackJackJ folded.
Nov 17 01:14:52 : walldo called 60
Nov 17 01:14:52 : edabs58 folded.
Nov 17 01:14:54 : fishermandon called 60
Nov 17 01:14:58 : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 2 min.
Nov 17 01:15:06 : kypimp called 60
Nov 17 01:15:06 : crazzyc333 folded.
Nov 17 01:15:11 : abigfan called 30
Nov 17 01:15:14 : Boozehound1 checked.
Nov 17 01:15:14 : Dealing flop.
Nov 17 01:15:14 : Board cards   
Nov 17 01:15:17 : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 2 min.
Nov 17 01:15:23 : abigfan bet 120
Nov 17 01:15:28 : Boozehound1 called 120
Nov 17 01:15:28 : walldo called 120
Nov 17 01:15:30 : fishermandon called 120
Nov 17 01:15:38 : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min.
Nov 17 01:15:38 : kypimp called 120
Nov 17 01:15:38 : Dealing turn.
Nov 17 01:15:38 : Board cards 
Nov 17 01:15:40 : abigfan checked.
Nov 17 01:15:42 : Boozehound1 checked.
Nov 17 01:15:46 : walldo bet 480
Nov 17 01:15:52 : fishermandon folded.
Nov 17 01:16:01 : kypimp folded.
Nov 17 01:16:03 : abigfan folded.
My read here was walldo had hit a flush and wasn't waiting to see if someone hit a higher one. I seldom play A-rag and this is one reason I don't.
2) This hand was early in the tournament. I wanted to find out if most would do as I did and pass on playing this or go ahead and play it because of position.
Single-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
$5 - NL - 9 Seats 5557412-14 Holdem No Limit 30/60
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Hand Start.
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 1 : walldo has $2,520
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 3 : edabs58 has $4,270
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 4 : fishermandon has $1,460
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 5 : kypimp has $1,640
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 6 : crazzyc333 has $1,670
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 7 : abigfan has $2,100
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 8 : Boozehound1 has $2,090
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 9 : BlackJackJ has $2,250
Nov 17 01:16:08 : abigfan is the dealer.
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Boozehound1 posted small blind.
Nov 17 01:16:08 : BlackJackJ posted big blind.
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Game 14 started with 8 players.
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Nov 17 01:16:08 : Seat 7 : abigfan has 3c 9c
Needless to say the flop would in no way of helped my hand. But I am just curious. Would you limp with hands like this? If so why?
3) This I think is more a lesson on the types of hands people will limp in with from the blinds. Anyway you would have played it differently?
$5 - NL - 9 Seats 5557412-20 Holdem No Limit 50/100
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Hand Start.
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 1 : walldo has $1,410
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 3 : edabs58 has $5,760
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 4 : fishermandon has $2,220
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 5 : kypimp has $790
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 6 : crazzyc333 has $1,470
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 7 : abigfan has $1,900
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 8 : Boozehound1 has $2,310
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 9 : BlackJackJ has $2,140
Nov 17 01:22:03 : kypimp is the dealer.
Nov 17 01:22:03 : crazzyc333 posted small blind.
Nov 17 01:22:03 : abigfan posted big blind.
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Game 20 started with 8 players.
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Nov 17 01:22:03 : Seat 7 : abigfan has 4s 8d
Nov 17 01:22:18 : Boozehound1 has 10 seconds to respond.
Nov 17 01:22:21 : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Next level in: 3 min.
Nov 17 01:22:22 : Boozehound1 folded.
Nov 17 01:22:23 : BlackJackJ folded.
Nov 17 01:22:23 : walldo folded.
Nov 17 01:22:23 : edabs58 folded.
Nov 17 01:22:23 : fishermandon folded.
Nov 17 01:22:26 : kypimp called 100
Nov 17 01:22:26 : crazzyc333 called 50
Nov 17 01:22:30 : abigfan checked.
Nov 17 01:22:30 : Dealing flop.
Nov 17 01:22:30 : Board cards  
Nov 17 01:22:35 : crazzyc333 checked.
Nov 17 01:22:37 : abigfan checked.
Nov 17 01:22:38 : kypimp checked.
Nov 17 01:22:39 : Dealing turn.
Nov 17 01:22:39 : Board cards
Nov 17 01:22:45 : abigfan bet 100
Nov 17 01:22:50 : kypimp called 100
Nov 17 01:22:50 : crazzyc333 folded.
Nov 17 01:22:50 : Dealing river.
Nov 17 01:22:50 : Board cards 
Nov 17 01:22:53 : abigfan bet 100
Nov 17 01:23:00 : kypimp called 100
Nov 17 01:23:00 : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Next level in: 3 min.
Nov 17 01:23:01 : Showdown!
Nov 17 01:23:01 : Seat 7 : abigfan has 4s 8d
Nov 17 01:23:03 : Seat 7 : abigfan has 4s 8d
Nov 17 01:23:03 : abigfan has Flush T9842
Nov 17 01:23:03 : abigfan wins 700 with Flush T9842
4) Single-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
$5 - NL - 9 Seats 5557412-23 Holdem No Limit 50/100
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Hand Start.
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 1 : walldo has $1,760
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 3 : edabs58 has $5,760
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 4 : fishermandon has $2,220
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 5 : kypimp has $490
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 6 : crazzyc333 has $1,370
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 7 : abigfan has $2,200
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 8 : Boozehound1 has $2,160
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Seat 9 : BlackJackJ has $2,040
Nov 17 01:24:08 : Boozehound1 is the dealer.
Nov 17 01:24:08 : BlackJackJ posted small blind.
Nov 17 01:24:09 : walldo posted big blind.
Nov 17 01:24:09 : Game 23 started with 8 players.
Nov 17 01:24:09 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Nov 17 01:24:09 : Seat 7 : abigfan has Jh 7h
Nov 17 01:24:11 : edabs58 folded.
Nov 17 01:24:12 : fishermandon folded.
Nov 17 01:24:18 : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Next level in: 1 min.
Nov 17 01:24:24 : kypimp called 100
Nov 17 01:24:29 : crazzyc333 folded.
Nov 17 01:24:33 : abigfan folded.
Nov 17 01:24:33 : Boozehound1 folded.
Nov 17 01:24:34 : BlackJackJ called 50
Nov 17 01:24:36 : walldo checked.
Nov 17 01:24:38 : Dealing flop.
Nov 17 01:24:38 : Board cards  
Nov 17 01:24:38 : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Next level in: 1 min.
Nov 17 01:24:50 : BlackJackJ checked.
Nov 17 01:24:55 : walldo checked.
Nov 17 01:24:58 : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Next level in: 1 min.
Nov 17 01:25:01 : kypimp bet 390 and is All-in
Nov 17 01:25:04 : BlackJackJ folded.
Nov 17 01:25:08 : walldo folded.
Nov 17 01:25:10 : kypimp wins 300 as the last player standing
I folded here because I thought for sure that the short stack was playing an A in his hand. What would you have done?
5) I folded on this hand as well. Not pleased with position or hand strength. Would you wait to see the flop?
Single-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
$5 - NL - 9 Seats 5557412-39 Holdem No Limit 150/300
Nov 17 01:34:30 : Hand Start.
Nov 17 01:34:30 : Seat 3 : edabs58 has $4,980
Nov 17 01:34:30 : Seat 4 : fishermandon has $6,280
Nov 17 01:34:30 : Seat 7 : abigfan has $2,600
Nov 17 01:34:30 : Seat 8 : Boozehound1 has $1,560
Nov 17 01:34:30 : Seat 9 : BlackJackJ has $2,580
Nov 17 01:34:30 : 'Dead button' is at seat 0
Nov 17 01:34:30 : edabs58 posted small blind.
Nov 17 01:34:30 : fishermandon posted big blind.
Nov 17 01:34:31 : Game 39 started with 5 players.
Nov 17 01:34:31 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Nov 17 01:34:31 : Seat 7 : abigfan has 7d 8d
Nov 17 01:34:33 : abigfan folded.
6) I think this was one of my better moves of the night. Did I play it well? What would you do differently?
Single-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
$5 - NL - 9 Seats 5557412-43 Holdem No Limit 150/300
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Hand Start.
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Seat 3 : edabs58 has $8,190
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Seat 4 : fishermandon has $5,680
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Seat 7 : abigfan has $1,550
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Seat 9 : BlackJackJ has $2,580
Nov 17 01:37:09 : 'Dead button' is at seat 7
Nov 17 01:37:09 : BlackJackJ posted small blind.
Nov 17 01:37:09 : edabs58 posted big blind.
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Game 43 started with 4 players.
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Nov 17 01:37:09 : Seat 7 : abigfan has As Qs
Nov 17 01:37:12 : fishermandon folded.
Nov 17 01:37:14 : Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Next level in: 5 min.
Nov 17 01:37:15 : abigfan called 300 and raised 300
Nov 17 01:37:18 : BlackJackJ folded.
Nov 17 01:37:21 : edabs58 folded.
Nov 17 01:37:22 : abigfan wins 750 as the last player standing
7) Here is a hand that I caught a couple times last night. I did not play it because of the re-raise. Would you?
Single-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
$5 - NL - 9 Seats 5557412-46 Holdem No Limit 150/300
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Hand Start.
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Seat 3 : edabs58 has $7,740
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Seat 4 : fishermandon has $4,180
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Seat 7 : abigfan has $3,650
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Seat 9 : BlackJackJ has $2,430
Nov 17 01:38:36 : fishermandon is the dealer.
Nov 17 01:38:36 : abigfan posted small blind.
Nov 17 01:38:36 : BlackJackJ posted big blind.
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Game 46 started with 4 players.
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Nov 17 01:38:36 : Seat 7 : abigfan has 3c 3d
Nov 17 01:38:38 : edabs58 folded.
Nov 17 01:38:41 : fishermandon called 300 and raised 600
Nov 17 01:38:44 : abigfan folded.
Nov 17 01:38:47 : Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Next level in: 3 min.
Nov 17 01:38:47 : BlackJackJ folded.
Nov 17 01:38:48 : fishermandon wins 750 as the last player standing
Nov 17 01:38:50 : Hand is over.
Nov 17 01:38:50 : Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Next level in: 3 min.
All in all this was a good tournament for me. I finished ITM but would have loved to have finished higher. Sorry this post is slo long but I had lots of what would you do hands.
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Posted Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:49 am GMT by zinn0
hand 1, very weak play...If your going to play it, I might have raised it up. Also, checking the turn is basically giving the pot away. If you face a bet, you have to either raise or fold. There is no gaurantee he has a flush. The turn could have been as much a scare card for him as it was for you.
Hand 2, don't play that junk. From any position other than the blinds in an unraised pot. You are dominated by 94o, unless of course you have an amazing read and think you can take the pot down without a showdown.
Hand 3, I would have bet stronger on the turn. Not many people are going to fold for another 100 chips into a pot that is roughly 500.
Hand 4, I hate to beat a dead horse, but I would have folded preflop. J7 isn't that great. After the all-in, it was an easy laydown.
Hand 5, I like these hands, as they can become very very profitable if you can get in cheap. I would play this before I would play 93s or J7s anytime from most any position.
Hand 6, not sure why you are pleased with this hand...you raised, which you should do, although I would have raised more (3-4x BB), or maybe even pushed with your stack. Everyone folded. Good move, I guess.
Hand 7, eh...this is a judgment call...sometimes fold, sometimes push...to each his own, but I don't rule out pushing with pp3 4 handed.
You finished ITM, so you are obviously doing something right...keep it up.
Posted Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:42 pm GMT by Hurricane Ham
1.) Nothing wrong with limping with A9 in the SB in a multihanded pot. Bet more on the flop. Define your hand, find out where you are. You bet 120 into a pot of 300, flush draws will call you all day. Make it a little more expensive for them to draw. Leading on the turn may not be a bad idea as well, maybe half the pot, see what happens.
2.) I can think of very few situations in which to play 3 9, suited or not.
3.) Tricky hand, just a four high flush with four on the board. If you're gonna bet, I'd say bet a little more and find out if anyone has a better flush, 300 maybe. If they fold it, they don't have a spade, if they call, you're probably beat.
4.) I fold J7 in that position regardless of anything. It's J7. Not a good hand.
5.) Fine fold UTG. On the button with a limper or two, sure, but don't want to be playing draws out of position. You can lose control of the hand very easily and pay for it.
6.) If by move you mean playing it like the majority of people would play it, then yes, it's a good move. However, nuts to minraising unless you REALLY want action, and even then it's dangerous. Pop that guy up to 3XBB at least.
7.) Good fold. Huge leak I used to have was playing any pocket pair until the flop. As long as it's cheap, go right ahead, but calling 900 on an 8 to 1 shot isn't good poker. Pushing is a viable option, but if you get called you're at BEST 50 50, so it's a dangerous move. I fold and wait for a better spot, unless the raiser has been stealing a lot and may have nothing, in which case you could take it down pre flop.
Posted Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:01 pm GMT by Skribbles
1) Played perfect.
2) No way in hell you play 93c
3) Played fine.
4) So you would have played J7h if there wasn't a short stack still to act??? Foolish.
5) 87d is a nice hand but when the blinds are more than 10% of your stack its an easy fold.
6) Standard play.
7) At best you'd be 50/50 to win this hand. No need to play it to unless you think a 50% chance to win is good enough.
Posted Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:57 pm GMT by bluef0x
Wow, you guys are crazy.... hand 6 IS NOT A STANDARD PLAY. It's BAD.
You need to PUSH that. 
Posted Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:16 am GMT by Skribbles
Your exactly right Bluefox. Him pushing there would have changed the entire game. Since they wouldn't call his min raise they would definitly call his all-in.
Posted Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:23 am GMT by ScanX
| Skribbles wrote: | | Your exactly right Bluefox. Him pushing there would have changed the entire game. Since they wouldn't call his min raise they would definitly call his all-in. |
that's not the point.
he has to push because he only has 5x the BB left, it's 4 handed, he really needs to double up and it's not likely he gets a better hand anytime soon
what if he misses the flop ? he going to check-fold and have himself with 900 left or desperately push ?
bluefox is right
Posted Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:32 am GMT by bluef0x
| Skribbles wrote: | | Your exactly right Bluefox. Him pushing there would have changed the entire game. Since they wouldn't call his min raise they would definitly call his all-in. |
Yeah one time I called 8 all-in's with 7-2o and won. I should do it everytime.
Stop being results oriented, it's dumb.
Posted Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:35 pm GMT by Skribbles
| ScanX wrote: | | Skribbles wrote: | | Your exactly right Bluefox. Him pushing there would have changed the entire game. Since they wouldn't call his min raise they would definitly call his all-in. |
that's not the point.
he has to push because he only has 5x the BB left, it's 4 handed, he really needs to double up and it's not likely he gets a better hand anytime soon
what if he misses the flop ? he going to check-fold and have himself with 900 left or desperately push ?
bluefox is right |
I'd be pushing no matter what the flop the was.
Posted Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:02 pm GMT by bluef0x
And when he hits the flop you lose your stack, when he misses he folds for +300. Thats -EV.
take the blinds or double up through Ax you have to push that flop.
Posted Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:06 pm GMT by supafrey
for once bluefox is right =/
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