Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:00 am GMT by Dat_Dude
Game #1120284626 - Tournament FreeMillion - 50/100 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2005/11/28-20:41:29.8 (CST)
Table "FreeMillion 127" (MTT) -- Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: TRAPSTARR3 (746 in chips)
Seat 2: mukster (4,145 in chips)
Seat 3: Jon.Doe (900 in chips)
Seat 4: LEFTYGG (4,615 in chips)
Seat 5: Diesel_IA (3,130 in chips)
Seat 6: umgoblue (1,195 in chips)
Seat 7: WHATMEBLUFF (4,040 in chips)
Seat 8: Tonanz (3,835 in chips)
Seat 9: ~TropicanA~ (690 in chips)
Seat 10: chwabster (114 in chips)
Jon.Doe : Post Small Blind (50)
LEFTYGG : Post Big Blind (100)
Dealing...
Dealt to Diesel_IA  
Diesel_IA: Raise (300)
umgoblue: Call (300)
WHATMEBLUFF: Raise (500)
Tonanz : Fold
~TropicanA~: Raise All-in (690)
chwabster: Fold
TRAPSTARR3: Fold
mukster : Fold
Jon.Doe : Fold
LEFTYGG : Fold
Diesel_IA: Fold
umgoblue: Call (390)
WHATMEBLUFF: Call (190)
*** FLOP *** :   
Good fold, eh?
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Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:55 am GMT by Miss_J
ah poop. not that you coulda ever known.
Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:23 am GMT by Muck
Umgoblue: or WHATMEBLUFF could have re-raised again after you to isolate ~TropicanA~:, your post flop position would have been bad and if you put what they had in to an odds calculator you were probably a preflop dog.
Take comfort where you can 
Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:41 am GMT by Dave B
Why raise UTG with a drawing hand? I like QJ suited, but I think limp or fold UTG is the best play here. If I limp, I am expecting to get raised, and I just hope there is enough action to justify a call.
BTW-the limp UTG will often be taken rather seriously and people are reluctant to attack it. Unless you are dealing with inexperienced idiots.
Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:00 pm GMT by Muck
Well I can testify that idiots don’t appreciate the strength required for EP limps and raises (or calls come to think of it). Heres an example from the very first hand of a £5-£1 SnG I played on Sunday.
Me UTG A K
Blinds 7 and 15
Me UTG I raise to 60
Dumb UTG+1 calls
Dumber UTG+2 calls
Folds around to me.
Flop A K 4
Me - check. (I’m not one for traps but was sure they’d bet)
Dumb - Bet 210
Dumber - Call
Me - Raise to 600
Dumb - Fold
Dumber - Call
Turn 7
Me – Bet all-in
Dumber - Call
Dumber turns over K9
Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:08 pm GMT by racquet000
I dont know why you didnt call you had more It was just a little more to call with a few people in. I would have made that call. Even more so cause you were the intital raiser.
Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:22 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
| racquet000 wrote: | | I dont know why you didnt call you had more It was just a little more to call with a few people in. |
The reason I didn't call was basically because of the Sandwich concept. I raised just trying to show major strength hoping to isolate it to 1 caller. I was then reraised two players later and then the all in happened. I was fearing that WHATMEBLUFF was going to go over the top and basically make me play for all my chips. So I gave the hand up.
I didn't intend for this thread to be a hand analysis, I was just simply giving a "Tale Of Hold'Em: Look at this hand!". There were many reasons why I raised under the gun.
1) Since it was a freeroll, people were calling with mediocre-at-best hands, so there was a chance that if I did get called, I wouldnt have been THAT much of a DOG and possibly even a favorite.
2) I figured that I wanted to see a flop, and honestly I felt it was the best and cheapest way to see it. I figured that if I had limped, someone would have raised more than I did. So I figured people would notice my UTG raise as decent strength and just call or fold.
Posted Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:43 pm GMT by Dave B
IT WAS A FREEROLL AND YOU DIDNT CALL?????????????????????????
Dont these typically just play 1-2% of people? Dont you need to gamble to win these? Hell, I might go all in here w/ QJ suited and pray for 2-3 callers.
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