Posted Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:40 pm GMT by racquet000
Wow saw some good bluffs and bad plays. The rookie guy who won his was into the tourney with an online entry. Hit his set on the flop and bet his life away. lol......Then he sufferd a bad beat and got taken out. But when they came back he was in the back room crying?  Couldnt handle it? Looks like he was the one giving out the bad beats norm....lol...couldnt handle it back? I mean thats poker. Thats what my tattoo says. O wait still got to get that done....lol
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Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:24 am GMT by ballbp
It was definitely a game of push and push back at the start but it slowed down after about ten hands. I was glad to see it get down to the two that it did. It was also somewhat reassuring to see two guys at a final WPT table make betting mistakes. One called before the betting was finished TWICE and the other was about to string-raise until the other said "you can't go back" and he even replied "yeah that's a string-bet". All in all, nice to see one that's not a re-run.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:31 am GMT by racquet000
Yeah they screwd up atleast 5 times when it was down to the final 2. Kinda funny.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:35 am GMT by ScanX
Racket I've read some stories on CardPlayer about people crying when they were out of a tournament...It happens in every sport aswell. I don't see what's the problem with it really
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:42 am GMT by racquet000
See the problem in what. Crying. Or why there crying? I dont care if they cry. I just think i would be happy as hell if i got that far and i wouldnt have time to cry...lol
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:02 am GMT by Sundance
There is no crying in baseball.
AND
There is no crying in Poker... nuff said!.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:20 am GMT by myonker
if I placed 10th or so in a tournament, i wouldnt be crying or mad at a bad beat. I'd be countin' that 10grand (or whatever) with a big 'ol smile on my face.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:17 pm GMT by ORGrinder
no doubt... i was a little confused by that myself. i guess it's how you go into the game.
if i won a spot on a WPT tourney off of a 12 buck sat, i'd be so stoked just to have the opp to be there that i wouldn't really care what place i came in.
and if i made it to the final table!!! i'd be so pumped... i couldn't care less if i was the first person out. not only did i make like 10grand off of my initial 12 buck investment... but i had a chance to play with some real pros. the experiance for me would be worth it.
oh well... to each their own.
i was a little ticked off at that bald dude in the final two. make one mistake... fine. let it go... everyone makes a mistake. but two, back to back out of turn plays like that. i don't think there's any excuse for that. i'm not sure what could have been done, but i think some action should have been taken. if i'm in the final two and i make a mistake like that... i'd say to myself (okay... wake up and get on the ball here)... not continue on in my half comotose state and screw up not 2 minutes later.
i'm glad that guy didn't win...
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:41 pm GMT by Sundance
I think that bald guy was suffering from fatigue. Remember, these guys have played 3-4 days straight for 12-14 hours a day. I think he just wanted to get it over with. Although his mistakes were very amateur..
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:04 pm GMT by Matt T
I really wanted to see the guys in seats 1 and 2 duke it out at the end. They dominated the early action and that was fun to watch. I think the names were Carlos Mortenson and David something. This was my first WPT episode so please pardon me if I'm not familiar with some poker big names that I probably should know.
What's the deal with the string raise? I just yesterday learned what it was but is the "No string raise" rule pretty much universal or does it vary from game-to-game?
On the boat that I play on, there is a line going around the table, maybe 10-12 inches in from the edge. If you don't verbalize your intentions, ALL chips in your hand that cross that line are a bet/raise (no dropping a few and then pulling back the rest). Is this universal or game-to-game? The boat makes this VERY clear to everyone prior to play but people still always do it, and then bitch about it when they are forced to abide by it.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:15 pm GMT by ORGrinder
regarding the WPT... i think (i could be wrong) you can take chips back if you want... but you have to be holding all that you want to bet.
meaning that if you want to bet 10k... you can be holding 20k and only bet the 10k and put the other 10k back in your stack... but if you wanted to bet 30k and only are holding 20k when you bet... you can't go back for the other 10.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:18 pm GMT by racquet000
They werent Big Big names. I kinda think more newbs are going to show up at the final tables. Carlos is a known player but idk to many other ones. As for the rule I dont play no limit at the casino and im going to play in my first no limit tourney this weekend. So i guess it would be good to find out. :D
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:28 pm GMT by PuckJunkieNY
Hell! turning $12 into 40K is nothing to cry about. I came back late from the commercial and had volume muted for commercials. I saw his face in his hands, but wasn't aware he was crying...was he really crying or did it just appear that way? Anyway, as tough as must have been to see that Ten appear in the Riv, I'm sure he had his share of lucky and timely draws on his way to the final table. And the experiance alone....I take that any ole day. Nothing to whimper about.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:46 pm GMT by racquet000
Pretty sure he was crying as he said. "It wasn't soposed to end like this". Or something to taht nature.
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:01 pm GMT by american mutt
Damn I need to get some cable or satelite bad. My spot
is a big section of a 130 year old building, and we only get
power and phone. If someone digitally recorded this
episode, and can make it an .avi or something, I'll
mail you a 20 spot to transfer it 'IM' to me!! I don't
know if this is possible, but hey, I'll do it.
hey racquet, dig the sig homie!! :D
Posted Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:14 pm GMT by racquet000
Haha thanks me too. Kinda like my lifestyle.  Couldnt have done it without you.
Posted Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:09 am GMT by littleogre
The last 2 players seemed to be seemed to sleeping at the wheel. They made several mistakes. The old guy acted like he was confussed or something. Then it took the winner several seconds to realize that he was the winner. They both just stood there like neither one knew who the winner was.
Posted Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:33 pm GMT by Silencer
Yeah that was amusing. After it was over for like 20 seconds Noli looked like he thought he had lost, or that he wasn't sure what was going on.
As far as that guy crying I don't think it's really bad. For the pro who's been around a while it may not be so bad because they have more experience and they have won some and lost some. For this guy though it was a once in a lifetime even that started with $12 or something like that and somehow ends him up at the final table of one of the most premiere events in the world. You get so close and when you think you've got the hand and are safe that one card comes up and you're done before you know what hit you. It's just a huge letdown and I don't think it's something that people can prepare for.
You know what I REALLY didn't like though? Before this episode was one with that "dot com" guy. It was the first time I've seen him play but I hate him now. First in his short interview segment he is basically going on about how great he is because he is so rich from his internet stuff and that now he can play poker all day long for fun because money isn't important anymore. Then during the game he announced one or both of his pocket cards like 3-4 times.
I'm a total newbie and even I know that doing that is against the rules, yet he did it really obviously and he did it like 4 times. Even the announcers (Mike especially) was getting frustrated because he was doing it so much. He was saying that although he is a good player he is acting like an amateur because of what he is saying about his cards. I was really hoping the tournament director or somebody would walk over and rule that he had to forfeit his hand when he did that.
Nobody did unfortunately. It's ok though. He seemed to be so preoccupied with trying to look cool and impress everybody that he made a lot of stupid decisions at the end and lost like the fool he is. I hope to never see him play again for I dislike him almost as much as that x22 retard (and that's saying something, because I think x22 should be banned from poker permanently).
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