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I'm going to put a bullet into my head



Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:57 am GMT by Bobross139
PokerStars Game #3255030236: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/12/06 - 01:14:13 (ET)
Table 'Mizar II' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: stickman1003 ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Laius ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 3: 1FunkyMonkey ($13.30 in chips)
Seat 4: mt steve ($42.95 in chips)
Seat 5: ideoarchy ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 6: GABED ($85.45 in chips)
Seat 7: ongko33 ($7.75 in chips)
Seat 8: SteveB1353 ($46.40 in chips)
Seat 9: Rockapella ($49.25 in chips)
mt steve: posts small blind $0.25
ideoarchy: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rockapella Ace of ClubsJack of Clubs
GABED: calls $0.50
ongko33: folds
SteveB1353: calls $0.50
Rockapella: raises $1 to $1.50
stickman1003: folds
Laius: folds
1FunkyMonkey: folds
mt steve: folds
ideoarchy: calls $1
GABED: calls $1
SteveB1353: calls $1
*** FLOP *** Nine of HeartsJack of HeartsJack of Diamonds
ideoarchy: checks
GABED: bets $3
SteveB1353: calls $3
Rockapella: raises $17 to $20
ideoarchy: folds
GABED: folds
SteveB1353: raises $24.90 to $44.90 and is all-in
Rockapella: calls $24.90
*** TURN *** Nine of HeartsJack of HeartsJack of Diamonds Eight of Diamonds
*** RIVER *** Nine of HeartsJack of HeartsJack of DiamondsEight of Diamonds Five of Hearts
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SteveB1353: shows Nine of SpadesNine of Diamonds (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)
Rockapella: shows Ace of ClubsJack of Clubs (three of a kind, Jacks)
SteveB1353 collected $96.05 from pot
GABED said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $99.05 | Rake $3
Board Nine of HeartsJack of HeartsJack of DiamondsEight of DiamondsFive of Hearts
Seat 1: stickman1003 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Laius folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 1FunkyMonkey (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mt steve (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ideoarchy (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: GABED folded on the Flop
Seat 7: ongko33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SteveB1353 showed Nine of SpadesNine of Diamonds and won ($96.05) with a full house, Nines full of Jacks
Seat 9: Rockapella showed Ace of ClubsJack of Clubs and lost with three of a kind, Jacks

Pocket nines, of course...


PokerStars Game #3255253668: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/12/06 - 01:45:11 (ET)
Table 'Mizar II' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: MILLBODD ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Laius ($50.90 in chips)
Seat 3: bigvin111 ($21.10 in chips)
Seat 4: trauty ($21.10 in chips)
Seat 5: ideoarchy ($31.70 in chips)
Seat 8: SteveB1353 ($85.35 in chips)
Seat 9: Rockapella ($46.75 in chips)
ideoarchy: posts small blind $0.25
Ergo Sum: is sitting out
SteveB1353: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rockapella King of DiamondsAce of Spades
SteveB1353 said, "ugly river for you huh id"
Rockapella: raises $1.10 to $1.60
MILLBODD: folds
Ergo Sum leaves the table
Laius: calls $1.60
bigvin111: calls $1.60
ideoarchy said, "coullda been better"
trauty: calls $1.60
SteveB1353 said, "2 of diamonds?"
SteveB1353 said, "lol"
ideoarchy: calls $1.35
SteveB1353: calls $1.10

FIVE CALLERS

*** FLOP *** Two of DiamondsSeven of ClubsSix of Spades
ideoarchy: checks
SteveB1353: checks

Rockapella: checks
Laius: checks
bigvin111: checks
trauty: checks
*** TURN *** Two of DiamondsSeven of ClubsSix of Spades Queen of Clubs
ideoarchy: checks
SteveB1353: bets $1.50
Rockapella: folds
Laius: folds
bigvin111: calls $1.50
trauty: calls $1.50
ideoarchy: calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** Two of DiamondsSeven of ClubsSix of SpadesQueen of Clubs Ace of Diamonds
ideoarchy: checks
SteveB1353: checks
2691 joins the table at seat #6
bigvin111: checks
trauty: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ideoarchy: shows Five of ClubsFour of Hearts (high card Ace)
SteveB1353: shows Four of SpadesFive of Hearts (high card Ace)
bigvin111: shows Ace of ClubsTen of Clubs (a pair of Aces)
DickieLife joins the table at seat #7
trauty: mucks hand
bigvin111 collected $14.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.60 | Rake $0.75
Board Two of DiamondsSeven of ClubsSix of SpadesQueen of ClubsAce of Diamonds
Seat 1: MILLBODD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Laius folded on the Turn
Seat 3: bigvin111 showed Ace of ClubsTen of Clubs and won ($14.85) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: trauty (button) mucked King of SpadesSeven of Spades
Seat 5: ideoarchy (small blind) showed Five of ClubsFour of Hearts and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: SteveB1353 (big blind) showed Four of SpadesFive of Hearts and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: Rockapella folded on the Turn


two guys call me with frigging 4-5 offsuit and I would have won the damn hand.
i hate my life.


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Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:04 am GMT by Dat_Dude
Not trying to be an a$$, but neither of these are technically bad beats. The first one, you were an underdog the whole time and it just happened that the worst possible flop hit. You played it right, you just have to pay off his boat. It happens.

Second one: That hand was all yours if you had played it more aggressively. You were the initial raiser, so a decent sized continuation bet on the flop may have chased out the ATo and also earned you a free card on the turn since I doubt the guy with 45o would have bet when that Q hit. Then you would have hit your Ace and taken down the pot as the straight draws missed.

Just my $.02



Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:06 am GMT by Always_Bored
if those hands make you want to "put a bullet in your head" then i suggest you quit playing poker before someone alctually does get hurt.


Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:34 am GMT by Bobross139
I know these aren't technically bat beats, but I thought I could vent about them here without hearing shit about them from the pros.
Guess not.



Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:48 am GMT by galderon
Bobross139 wrote:
I know these aren't technically bat beats, but I thought I could vent about them here without hearing shit about them from the pros.
Guess not.


Don't let 'em get you down. The pros are just saying that yeah, sometimes you lose at poker...it happens. Keeping your cool is one of the most important things in poker. Sure they weren't bad beats, but yeah, they kind of sucked. Just keep your cool and give over your chips with a smile and say "Nice hand". Your opponents' bone-headed plays will just pay you off in the long run.

You can't let what would have happened affect your play. That's why rabbit hunting can be so dangerous. Sure, you would have won the hand in the second example, had to stayed in, but that doesn't necessarily make your fold the wrong move.



Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:16 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
Bobross139 wrote:
I know these aren't technically bat beats, but I thought I could vent about them here without hearing shit about them from the pros.
Guess not.


I didn't mean to come off the way I supposedly did. I was basically saying that the first hand was out of your control. You played it right and should make that play any day of the week. In this case, like I said, it was nearly the best possible flop for your opponent and you just have to pay him off.

The second hand I was merely offering advice by saying if you had just bet that flop, you may have ended up winning that hand.



Posted Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:37 pm GMT by Always_Bored
I just noticed on the second hand you only raised to 1.60 when the blinds are .50. Maybe next time put in a bigger raise and you wont get so many callers.


Posted Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:04 am GMT by Bobross139
1.50 was the typical opening raise at the table, and that's the first time there were that many callers in my 45 minutes at the table. Most flops were two or three handed. Perhaps in hindsight I should have raised more with AK. I would typically make a continuation bet with AK and a ragged flop, but with that many callers I figured they couldn't ALL have high cards and someone probably hit the flop. Maybe a bet would have gotten me one caller and if a scare card came on the turn I could make a steal, but I don't know.
And I wasn't bitching about the 99 vs. AJ thing, its just like, you finally hit a strong hand and the guy is holding the one hand he could possibly have that beats you.
I made back all that I lost yesterday, so all is well I guess.



Posted Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:00 pm GMT by Fat Tony
Bobross139 wrote:
I know these aren't technically bat beats, but I thought I could vent about them here without hearing shit about them from the pros.
Guess not.


If you just want to vent about some hands, i certainly have no problem with it. Just say so at the beginning of your post and nobody will give you any flak about it.






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