Posted Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:00 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
This is somewhat early in a live 10-person tournament. Villain is a loose/aggressive player for the most part, but pretty solid. Starting stacks are $2500
Villain is button - covers
Hero is SB (~1700)
Blinds: 100/200
Hero: A  J
Pre-flop:
MP calls, Villain Raises to 500. Hero calls extra 400, MP folds.
FLOP:
A  Q  J 
Hero checks (Probably wrong play, but thought about setting a trap), Villain Checks
Turn:
K
Hero bets 500. Villain pushes.
Hero??
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Posted Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:45 pm GMT by arras
Shouldn't try to set traps on scary boards. 
Posted Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:27 pm GMT by tame_deuces
About left 3xBB if you fold, win a 17xBB pot if you are ahead or happen to get lucky on the river.
I'd call, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:24 am GMT by UrAteUp
I have to agree with Tamed here. I feel villian has a straight and most likely puts you on an AX hand like you have. 2 pair isn't going to cut it but you can't get away from it now. Interesting to see how this played out.
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:42 am GMT by Dat_Dude
Well, Villain took a very long time to make his bet, so either he was giving me a lot of "Hollywood" and did have the 10, or he didn't think I had the 10.
Well, I did call and he shows me A Q and takes me out with a higher two pair.
After I got knocked out I started analyzing the play. He raised preflop, so I should have given him credit for a decent hand. Looking at that board, there were so many hands that beat me that he could have raised with.
AK, AQ,AT, KK, QQ,JJ, TT
The only hands I could have hoped to beat after the Turn was a medium pocket pair or lower two pair (KQ). But with all that money in and a pretty decent hand, I just don't know how I could have gotten away from this hand.
Had I bet the flop, I am sure he would have pushed and no matter what I was going out.
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:01 am GMT by TheSalche
| Dat_Dude wrote: |
The only hands I could have hoped to beat after the Turn was a medium pocket pair or lower two pair (KQ). But with all that money in and a pretty decent hand, I just don't know how I could have gotten away from this hand.
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This is the key here, you are behind probably 60% - 70% of villain's possible raising hands. I think the king on the turn makes the hand a lot easier to get away from, because now some hand like Jack 10 is killing you. In these situations, you have to think "what can I beat and how likely is my opponent to have a worse hand than me?"
Although you are ahead here sometimes, when you're behind you're out and if you're ahead, you're out of position and probably won't get anything out of the villain.
| Dat_Dude wrote: |
This is somewhat early in a live 10-person tournament. Villain is a loose/aggressive player for the most part, but pretty solid
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Work on your reading skills or at least describing him here. If he's loose aggressive then you're implying he raises with any two cards, which I wouldn't describe as 'solid' (good strategy if you use it right, but certainly not solid ... would you call Gus Hansen solid?).
Another thing, please don't ever call 1/4 of your stack preflop, especially out of position with a vulnerable starting hand. That's really where I think the error of this hand lies. Either push it preflop, or fold./quote
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