Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:08 am GMT by rjaziri
A friend and I got into a huge argument the other day. Here was the situation - say there is a heads up match. One player is dealt 7-2 offsuit while the other is dealt 3-2 offsuit. Although I know that statistically 7-2 is the worst starting hand in poker, wouldn't it be favored in this situation? What are the percentages of each hand winning the pot pre-flop?
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Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:11 am GMT by Dat_Dude
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 65.1923 % 55.99% 09.20% { 72o }
Hand 2: 34.8077 % 25.61% 09.20% { 32o }
Yes, 72o is favored in this situation, 65% to 35%.
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:31 am GMT by Muck
Also bare in mind 32o also takes a hit because the 2 is shared.
E.g.
Hand 1 : 63.6% {74o}
Hand 2 : 36.4% {32o}
Despite now having 2 overcards hand 1 has lost 2% of its edge.
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:55 am GMT by supafrey
"72 is the worst hand in poker" is just a catch phrase that tv shows like to use. While it's true in multi-way pots (There's very little chance you're hitting any kind of "nut" hand or even "very strong" hand with it), in SH situations the high card is king. The higher, the better.
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:13 pm GMT by tame_deuces
First one to raise 4xBB preflop wins.
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:41 pm GMT by TheSalche
you're friend is an idiot ... ask him to count to 10 and then ask him which number is higher, 3 or 7
Posted Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:52 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| TheSalche wrote: | | you're friend is an idiot ... ask him to count to 10 and then ask him which number is higher, 3 or 7 |
Better yet, give him the 32, you take the 72, and play showdown poker for $1 a hand. To hell with the $20 bet.
Posted Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:18 pm GMT by Adam Marshall
Ran a mix of 27 vs 23 questions into the calculator...
Here's 3 of the 10, picked for extremeness of values...
27o VS. 23s (27's suits no not match 23's suit)
like 2 7 VS 2 3
- 27 wins 52.3%
- 23 wins 30.3%
- Split Pot 17.4%
27s VS. 23s (23 of a different suit)
like 27 VS 23
- 27 wins 54.8%
- 23 wins 28.6%
- Split Pot 16.6%
27s VS. 23o (neither of 23's suits match 27's suit)
like 27 VS 23
- 27 wins 58.3%
- 23 wins 24.3%
- Split Pot 17.4%
...Interesting that the suits can cause a 6% swing. Also neat that the chance of a split pot is so high because we're dealing with such low cards.
EDIT: Crap, just noticed that it's specifically 72o vs 23o 
Here's that one with all four suits ...
27o VS. 23o (mixed suits)
like 27 VS 23
- 27 wins 55.87%
- 23 wins 25.97%
- Split Pot 18.15%
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