Auto-Shuffler good or bad? |
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Posted Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:04 am GMT by zinn0
This sort of fits into the 'poker christmas' thread over in general poker talk, but don't want to clutter that section up. My wife got me an auto-shuffler the other day. It is neat to play around with, and my Copags haven't jammed it up, but is it really worth using in a home game?
It just seems like an awful lot of work to gather the cards and put them in the contraption, and then, not get a very good shuffle from it. It just doesn't seem very random if the top card is going to be like, the 3rd card when they come out, you know?
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Posted Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:44 am GMT by Iron Butt
Yeah, home use shufflers are useless IMO. As you note you can't just run the deck through a home shuffler once and get a good shuffle, and almost anyone can shuffle a deck two or three times by the time you can get a deck into and out of a shuffler.
The proper procedure for a good shuffle is at least shuffle, strip (a shuffle that is like a multi-layer cut), shuffle, shuffle; that'd be pretty awkward with the machine but most people who've played cards a bit can do it in under 30 seconds.
Posted Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:30 pm GMT by JustinHEMI04
A buddy of mine picked one up and man... what a POS. First... his was EXTREMELY loud and annoying. Second, if screwed up the shuffle more times than it got it right. Third, it damaged several cards each time is screwed up. Waste and time and money in my opinion.
Justin
Posted Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:17 pm GMT by joe_13
They suck. Loud, and obnoxious. Slower than hand shuffling and more awkward.
Unless you buy a shufflemaster, like the ones they use at pokerrooms.
But those go for thousands of dollars.
Posted Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:24 pm GMT by lwestatbus
Ditto to the previous posters on the lack of usefulness of the consumer card shufflers. First, you have to replace the deck in the two infeed locations for each shuffle. Again, by the time you've done this you could do four good riffle shuffles.
I had a wild hair several months ago and decided to investigate a commercial quality shuffler for my father in law who loves cards but can no longer shuffle. I searched the Internet like crazy and this forum and literally could not find where one could be purchased. Zippo, zero, nadda. I just made my annual pilgrimage to the Gambler's General Store in Vegas and they don't have them. When I posted an inquiry in this forum one or two posters indicated that they aren't even for sale, that the casinos had to rent them.
Posted Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:58 pm GMT by ghoops32
| lwestatbus wrote: | | When I posted an inquiry in this forum one or two posters indicated that they aren't even for sale, that the casinos had to rent them. |
That's correct. There are no commercial versions available and the casinos rent the ones they use.
Posted Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:11 pm GMT by Grumbler
On the pricey side but:
http://www.shufflemaster.com/02_eu_products/utility_products/shufflers/shufflers_sd/ace.asp
Posted Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:02 am GMT by groton
yah only about 15K 
Posted Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:13 am GMT by Grumbler
Actually, this is the one I meant to post:
http://www.shufflemaster.com/02_eu_products/utility_products/shufflers/shufflers_sd/deck_mate.asp
Posted Mon May 08, 2006 8:08 pm GMT by saper88aa
My mom bought me one of these for my birthday, one of the cheap one, no tthe 15k ones. I also found inpractical since i can shuffle a deck in under 30 seonds. Also its to much of a hassle to take the cards in and out.
Posted Tue May 09, 2006 12:24 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
wow...15k...thats ridiculous...I guess its cuz only a few companies have the necessary gov't papers to sell these things...other than that, the machinery for a good shuffler couldn't possibly cost more than $200, could it?...how complex could it be?
if thats true, there must be a black market for these things somewhere...i'm looking at you china 
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