Posted Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:41 am GMT by Geno
PokerStars Game #3498161823: Tournament #17357555, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/01/01 - 10:05:14 (ET)
Table '17357555 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: RandomTaskFu (3685 in chips)
Seat 3: spud772 (1335 in chips)
Seat 7: SantM (1910 in chips)
Seat 8: TexasHarley (5005 in chips)
Seat 9: GenoTHP (1565 in chips)
TexasHarley: posts small blind 50
GenoTHP: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GenoTHP  
RandomTaskFu: calls 100
spud772: folds
SantM: raises 200 to 300
TexasHarley: folds
GenoTHP: calls 200 - arguably a little loose but screw it
RandomTaskFu: folds
*** FLOP ***   
GenoTHP: checks
SantM: bets 300
GenoTHP: calls 300
*** TURN *** 
GenoTHP: checks
SantM: bets 1310 and is all-in
GenoTHP: calls 965 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GenoTHP: shows (a full house, Nines full of Threes)
SantM: shows   (two pair, Aces and Threes)
GenoTHP collected 3280 from pot
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Posted Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:53 pm GMT by zinn0
I don't think your pre-flop call was loose at all. Just because someone raises, it doesn't mean they have you beat.
I will reraise with 99 if I have position, which you didn't...but still, calling 200 more from the small blind? Nh sir.
Posted Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:57 am GMT by TheSalche
Let me pose a question to you Lex,
What's your plan if:
a) one over flops, i.e. Jxx Qxx or 10xx
b) the big overs flop Kxx, Axx
c) any two overs flop
d) all unders flop
Pot is 600 and you have 1200 in your stack, I don't like being in this spot.
Posted Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:07 pm GMT by Phil14312
Salche, its called playing poker. I think the call is fine, take a flop and go from there. Yeah, you may run up against a bigger overpair from time to time and lose your stack, but you may flop a set and take the big overpair's stack.
Posted Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:11 pm GMT by DougisRad
At a five handed table, this could easily be AKo, AQs/o, AJs/o, ATs, KQs. I love the call, and I MAYBE reraise push depending on a read. Nice flop though. 
Posted Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:54 pm GMT by Geno
| TheSalche wrote: | Let me pose a question to you Lex,
What's your plan if:
a) one over flops, i.e. Jxx Qxx or 10xx
b) the big overs flop Kxx, Axx
c) any two overs flop
d) all unders flop
Pot is 600 and you have 1200 in your stack, I don't like being in this spot. |
a) Fold to a bet
b) Fold to a bet
c) Fold to a bet
d) Bet (I'd probably call a re-raise all-in too hoping he married AK and then bust to his AA  )
Posted Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:09 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
A little loose? not at all!
5 handed i would prolly have reraised him all in  but that's me unfortunately 
You did of course play it correctly and as so often happens, correct play got rewarded :D
His play with AA here was a little weak, I would have bet out more on the flop with AA for sure, that would be the only way he would stand a chance of getting off tis hand. If he had bet out say 600 post flop and you had flatcalled, surely then he's got to start thinking? You flatcalling 300 tells him nothing, in fact i'm betting that he (like many others) assumed his AA was golden the whole way.
Nice hand sir!
Oh hey that reminds me, i cracked AA in a pretty much identical way in this very tourney i'm playing right now.
PokerStars Game #3521243061: Tournament #17356525, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/01/03 - 13:25:07 (ET)
Table '17356525 16' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: gotthenuts25 (2816 in chips)
Seat 2: Brooklyn999 (5950 in chips)
Seat 3: skrymir42 (9765 in chips)
Seat 4: JDPART (7450 in chips)
Seat 5: DeepRed2 (9775 in chips)
Seat 6: godziller (4400 in chips)
Seat 7: jaylove (18538 in chips)
Seat 8: TheBudak (12930 in chips)
Seat 9: BingoKing624 (14931 in chips)
JDPART: posts small blind 100
DeepRed2: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeepRed2  
godziller: folds
jaylove: raises 600 to 800
TheBudak: folds
BingoKing624: folds
gotthenuts25: folds
Brooklyn999: folds
skrymir42: calls 800
JDPART: folds
DeepRed2: calls 600
*** FLOP ***  
DeepRed2: checks
gotthenuts25 said, "nh luck sac"
jaylove: bets 1000
skrymir42: calls 1000
DeepRed2: calls 1000
*** TURN *** 
DeepRed2: checks
jaylove: bets 3000
skrymir42: folds
DeepRed2: raises 4975 to 7975 and is all-in
jaylove: calls 4975
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DeepRed2: shows (three of a kind, Fours)
jaylove: shows  (a pair of Aces)
DeepRed2 collected 21450 from pot
Posted Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:09 pm GMT by Soup_dog
| Geno wrote: | | TheSalche wrote: | Let me pose a question to you Lex,
What's your plan if:
a) one over flops, i.e. Jxx Qxx or 10xx
b) the big overs flop Kxx, Axx
c) any two overs flop
d) all unders flop
Pot is 600 and you have 1200 in your stack, I don't like being in this spot. |
a) Fold to a bet
b) Fold to a bet
c) Fold to a bet
d) Bet (I'd probably call a re-raise all-in too hoping he married AK and then bust to his AA ) |
True.
Posted Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:28 am GMT by TheSalche
| Phil14312 wrote: | | Salche, its called playing poker. I think the call is fine, take a flop and go from there. Yeah, you may run up against a bigger overpair from time to time and lose your stack, but you may flop a set and take the big overpair's stack. |
Phil, it's very hard to play poker with 12xBBs in your stack (or two times the flop pot size)
Believe me if the stacks are bigger I call this everytime ... I'm just saying this is pretty close to a push/fold situation.
Posted Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:59 am GMT by TheSalche
Eh, maybe I am a push monkey ... it works better at Party I suppose
I think it can go either way still though (push/fold or call and pray)
Posted Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:19 am GMT by Geno
99 is a shitty hand to be playing with 15xBB really because I'm looking to fold unless I flop all unders or a set which is what, about 7.5 to 1? I'm calling at 3.75 to 1 pre-flop so really it's not a good play in purely statistical terms.
However, I felt that if I missed, I could fold myself down to 12xBB and still be OK given that this was at Stars with their 10min blind levels. Spud and SantM were both under 2000TC and I was pretty sure I could steal like a madman before the 75/150 level if need be and still get ITM even after folding on the flop here.
I still think it was a little loose and I think I'd only do it maybe 1 in 3 times depending on the players and the situation but this time it worked out so I'll take it.
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