Posted Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:52 pm GMT by TheSalche
Actually getting some replies on these hands would be great guys ... a lot of my recent posts have been going unreplied/one or two of them.
Hand 1:
Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com
UTG (t845)
UTG+1 (t800)
MP1 (t1180)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t475)
Hero (t800)
CO (t775)
Button (t770)
SB (t770)
BB (t785)
Preflop: Hero is in CO+1 with J J
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, MP2 calls t15, MP3 calls t15, Hero raises to t75,CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t60, MP1 calls t60, MP2 calls t60, MP3 calls t60
Flop: (t415) 4 K T (5 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets t60, MP3 calls t60, Hero calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60, MP1 folds
Turn: (t655) 4 K T Q (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets t665, UTG+1 folds, P2 folds, MP3 calls t340
River: (t1660) 4 K T Q 7 (2 players)
Hand 2:
*converter a lot of work*
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: (2415)
Seat 2: (1495)
Seat 3: villain 3 (380)
Seat 4: (550)
Seat 5: (760)
Seat 7: villain (300)
Seat 8: villain 2 (1370)
Seat 9: TheSalche (605)
Seat 10: (125)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheSalche  
villain calls (30)
villain 2 calls (30)
TheSalche calls (30)
3 folds
villain 3raises (380) to 380
villain 3 is all-In.
2 folds
villain calls (270)
villain is all-In.
villain 2 folds.
TheSalche calls (350)
More coming later ...
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Posted Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:12 pm GMT by TheSalche
Hand 3:
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com
UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t740)
MP1 (t770)
MP2 (t840)
MP3 (t665)
Hero (t1055)
CO (t800)
Button (t775)
SB (t785)
BB (t785)
Preflop: Hero is in CO+1 with Q A
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t15, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero raises to t60, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t45
Flop: (t145) 8 3 7 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t80, UTG+1 calls t80
Turn: (t305) 8 3 7 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t150, UTG+1 calls t150
River: (t605) 8 3 7 5 A (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t450, UTG+1 calls t450
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:21 am GMT by Muck
Hand 1.
I find hands like this tough and must admit I’m not very happy with my reply post. I don’t know I just can’t get in the poker mindset today. Anyway here’s what’s going through my head but I’m not very confident with it:
AA and KK here is easy, you’re happy to race and if no one calls you’ve got a nice pot from the limp bets. QQ and JJ are tougher because you’re more likely to be against overcards, especially with that many EP limpers.
On rare occasions I might just limp and hope for trips or no overcards, just to mix up my play. But most of the time here I’d go for a big raise to try and thin down the competition, since the pots already about 97 maybe 120.
I don’t like the call on the flop much because you’re likely behind to a King or facing someone chasing a flush. In addition even if you hit another Jack you could still lose to a straight (or flush) with a board like that.
The turn wasn’t that bad a card. It wasn’t a club and you now have an open ended straight. But it was yet another overcard so I think the best play here is to take advantage of your position and check it, then hope for an Ace or 9 on the river (not a club). I might have bet this draw had it been shorter handed and with tighter players. But here I don’t think it’s a good idea.
Did the villain have something like KQ, KJ or Axs? Or something more random.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:50 am GMT by Dat_Dude
Hand 3: I think you are ahead here.
There is a wide range of hands that villain could possibly have.
It feels to me like Villain was on a diamond draw the whole time with something like A 10 or similar to that. He was chasing his diamonds and hit his top pair like you on the river.
He could also have something like A8o, which is a hand that is typically limped in with. If this is the case, you were beat the whole time and he is a passive donk for not raising the flop or turn with top pair to get you (possibly) off a flush draw.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:41 am GMT by UrAteUp
Hand 1:
There is only one card that can beat your flush draw. I think you did a good job here betting and all. I just hope that other player doesn't have the A . If he does, tough luck but good play.
Hand 2:
I am not wild about your call of the all-in. 99 is a decent hand (top 20 if I am not mistaken), but villian could be on a KK or AA. Personally I would have let them waltzed with the blinds and live to fight another day.
Hand 3:
Not sure. Like Dat said villian could be on a draw. Villian could also have two pair or made a straight even (although not as likely as 2 pr). Either way I would be a little worried when he called that big bet on the river. I personally would have to put him on a hand of TP or 2 pair. I think a bet of $150 would have been good enough to find out if you won or not. If he comes over the top then I would have to be thinking I am beat here.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:53 pm GMT by Muck
| UrAteUp wrote: | Hand 1:
There is only one card that can beat your flush draw. I think you did a good job here betting and all. I just hope that other player doesn't have the A . If he does, tough luck but good play.
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Flush draw?
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:23 pm GMT by Skribbles
Hand 1: RAISE MORE PRE-FLOP! You have 5 limpers in front and raised to 5xBB. That is not going to scare any of them off. I would have raised to about 125-150 here. With a larger pre-flop raise, you could have had this hand done on the flop. Either pushing or folding.
The way it played out, it doesn't look like you are ahead. Unless he was drawing to the flush in which case he caught.
Hand 2: Hate it. You are calling off half your chips when you are 50/50 at best. You have 30 chips invested and 2 people all-in in front of you. LAY IT DOWN. Unless you hit one of your two outs, you won't win this hand many times.
Hand 3: Looks good. I'd be worry about the guy playing Ax and spiking his 2 pair but nothing you can do about that.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:44 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| Muck wrote: | | UrAteUp wrote: | Hand 1:
There is only one card that can beat your flush draw. I think you did a good job here betting and all. I just hope that other player doesn't have the A . If he does, tough luck but good play.
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Flush draw? |
Misread on my part. Thanks Muck for making me re-read that.
After re-reading this I feel that I have to agree with Skribbles, either raise more pre-flop or fold this hand now. Your beat. Anyone with a K or A is still in this hand and your not going to get them off of it most likely.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:19 pm GMT by TheSalche
Good analysis so far, good advice on the more pf raise on the first one skrib. The hand that I was beaten with should've been chased away had I raised it to 110 - 130ish. I still don't like committing that many chips preflop so early on (considering most boards will have one or two overcards) ... but I shoulda sucked it up there, situations like that don't happen too often.
Heres what I knew about hand 2 ... I had actually caught a guy earlier at 25/50 blind level pushing with 12 or 13xBB with A5, and I realized that this probably happens a lot. No sense to push with something like AQ or AK cause you kind of want action with that many BBs left. Turns out I raised right here, I think I actually ended up being against A3 and Q5, which I lose to an ace on the turn. In essence I was a coinflip getting 2 to 1 odds, but that situation won't come up too often.
It seems like there are two theories on hand 3: one is that villain has some sort of flush draw, possibly ace high, which means he hit the river too. The other was that villain hit a pair on the flop and then hit his two pair on the river where I made my pair.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:14 pm GMT by Skribbles
| TheSalche wrote: | In essence I was a coinflip getting 2 to 1 odds, but that situation won't come up too often.
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It turned out to be the right play but I wouldn't be hoping for that too often.
Most often you will run into these hands:
2 overs: 38%
Underpair: 18%
You: 43%
4 Overs: 70%
You: 30%
Overpair:71% (AA)
2 overs: 11% (KQ)
You: 18%
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