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Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:11 pm GMT by 1988 TR
Guess this is why he is the pro, yikes! lol
Full Tilt Poker Game #379880298: Table Larson (6 max) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:25:49 ET - 2006/01/12
Seat 1: AAAAQ ($2,483)
Seat 4: Steve Brecher ($2,125)
Seat 5: Getthecheck ($4,086)
Getthecheck posts the small blind of $10
AAAAQ posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AAAAQ  
Steve Brecher raises to $60
Getthecheck calls $50
AAAAQ calls $40
*** FLOP ***   
Getthecheck checks
AAAAQ checks
Steve Brecher bets $180
Getthecheck folds
AAAAQ calls $180
*** TURN *** 
AAAAQ checks
Steve Brecher bets $540
AAAAQ calls $540
*** RIVER *** 
AAAAQ bets $1,703, and is all in
Steve Brecher calls $1,345, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $358 returned to AAAAQ
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AAAAQ shows (a full house, Sixes full of Kings)
Steve Brecher shows   (a full house, Queens full of Sixes)
Steve Brecher wins the pot ($4,309) with a full house, Queens full of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4,310 | Rake $1
Board:
Seat 1: AAAAQ (big blind) showed and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Kings
Seat 4: Steve Brecher (button) showed and won ($4,309) with a full house, Queens full of Sixes
Seat 5: Getthecheck (small blind) folded on the Flop
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Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:25 pm GMT by Soup_dog
OOOOOOOOUCH!!!!
Thats a rough one.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:27 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Soup_dog wrote: | OOOOOOOOUCH!!!!
Thats a rough one. |
Yes... I'm on suicide watch. 8)
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:33 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
I wonder if you could have gotten him to fold his 2nd pair if you popped a Check/Raise on the flop. His Q's were 2nd pair and he might have given up right there.
If he would call a raise on the flop, you were dead meat anyways.
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:43 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
That is one tough beat!
Yes as Dude said, you could have check raised the flop, but where is the fun in that?  I don't see any way you could have felt you were behind when you moved all in? Even when he called your river bet i'm thinking AA or KQ and couldn't understand how you were gonna lose! took me a second to spot it 
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:52 pm GMT by Geno
The thing here is that he got lucky. If you overbet a flop like that and kill the pot every single time, you are losing in the long run so I think you played it fine and he got lucky. The Q on the turn gave you no reason to fold - we'd all have lost our shirts on this one.
By the way, playing that is only positive in the long run if you keep playing $10/20 No-Limit so if you are back at micro stakes, you are boned
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:11 pm GMT by Muck
With a possible flush draw on the flop I’d play this faster (betting/raise from the flop onwards). But I play low limit where sooted cards are more popular 
Posted Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:16 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Geno wrote: | The thing here is that he got lucky. If you overbet a flop like that and kill the pot every single time, you are losing in the long run so I think you played it fine and he got lucky. The Q on the turn gave you no reason to fold - we'd all have lost our shirts on this one.
By the way, playing that is only positive in the long run if you keep playing $10/20 No-Limit so if you are back at micro stakes, you are boned |
I agree, if you trip all over yourself each time you pick up a hand, it's not going to be profitable... Sometimes you just have to take ur licks.
It was such a great board at the end.... Straights were out there, the flush came, & I had the boat. Oh well!
It would have taken a pretty sizeable bet to push him off his hand on the flop. A check raise of $180 surely would have received a call. And I'm not looking to drive him out with a $500 bet - I had my line cast & was ready to reel it in. lol
Posted Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:12 pm GMT by howzit
i check raise flop, make it $450-$500. if he has AK or a good combo draw, he will call or hopefully 3 bet all-in. maybe get stubborn w/a pair.
a ton of cards kill your turn action. any straight card, flush card, and ace will stop your action. sorry bro, you won the least, lost the most.
turn is just ugly card and ugly action. river, oh well, money goes in w/those stacks.
Posted Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:38 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| howzit wrote: | i check raise flop, make it $450-$500. if he has AK or a good combo draw, he will call or hopefully 3 bet all-in. maybe get stubborn w/a pair.
a ton of cards kill your turn action. any straight card, flush card, and ace will stop your action. sorry bro, you won the least, lost the most.
turn is just ugly card and ugly action. river, oh well, money goes in w/those stacks. |
I hear ya.... Just wanted to get wait until he made a good size bet on the turn before I popped him....
Posted Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:14 am GMT by howzit
one reason, i check raise here. top bottom is usually vulnerable. you know that.
But real reason why: underpairs making continuation bets won't give action on turn/river if you call flop. If you raise there you represent very wide range of hands (assume you are action player) good players will just fold QQ here w/those stacks because of the next two streets and they are either 50/50 or waayyyyy big dogs. BUT good players may think you're check-raising a draw that they may see one more street w/a king or AA. then draw $ out of them accordingly.
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