Posted Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:47 pm GMT by StarlightCoast
My NL games progress well, but as I am new to NL cash games I can always use advice from those more experienced than I. Limit is my game but am trying NL at the lowest limits. Started with 10 buy-ins each buy-in equals 100 big blinds.
Have worked my NL bankroll up to just over 13.5 buy-ins with an earn rate of 7.07 PTBB/Hr. ( A PT BB is twice the big blind which makes sense) and 14.90PTBB/100 hands. I assume this is decent? Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I have no idea what is considered good in NL cash games. Any light shed on this will be helpful as in what kind of earn rate over the long haul is considered good.
I have won 71.88% of my sessions which I assume to be good. I have however lost my buy-in 5 times and this is what I wish to get input on. When I lose my buy-in it is always a single hand or perhaps 2 that does it and I am going to post those hands so the experienced NL cash game players could tell me where I went wrong, or if they were played well and that's just how it goes sometimes. Thanks in advance for any and all input.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) converter
MP1 ($4.68)
MP2 ($4.20)
CO ($2.60)
Button ($5.73)
SB ($1.91)
BB ($1.28)
UTG ($1.63)
Hero ($2.91)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with :Ad, :Kd.
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.1, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.08.
Flop: ($0.33) :Ks, :Kc, :Qd (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.16, CO calls $0.16, UTG folds.
Turn: ($0.65) :4s (2 players)
Hero bets $0.32, CO calls $0.32.
River: ($1.29) :10c (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.02 (All-In), Hero calls $2.02.
Anything wrong with this call? When I made it my gut told me I was beat, but I just had to know for sure.
Final Pot: $5.33
Results in white below:
Hero has Ad Kd (three of a kind, kings).
CO has Qh Qs (full house, queens full of kings).
Outcome: CO wins $5.33.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) converter
UTG+1 ($1.95)
MP1 ($1.96)
MP2 ($1.05)
MP3 ($3.33)
CO ($3.58)
Button ($1.89)
SB ($1.98)
BB ($5)
Hero ($0.78)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with :Js, :Ah.
Hero calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.12) :6c, :3h, :3c (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($0.12) :3d (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.
River: ($0.12) :As (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.76, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.74.
What else should I or could I have done?
Final Pot: $1.64
Results in white below:
BB has 3s Ts (four of a kind, threes).
Hero has Js Ah (full house, threes full of aces).
Outcome: BB wins $1.64.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) converter
SB ($2.26)
Hero ($1.79)
UTG ($5.01)
MP1 ($6.32)
MP2 ($1.46)
CO ($1.14)
Button ($1.85)
Preflop: Hero is BB with :As, :Ac.
3 folds, CO raises to $0.08, Button calls $0.08, SB calls $0.07, Hero raises to $0.4, CO calls $0.32, Button calls $0.32, SB folds.
Flop: ($1.28) :4c, :10d, :3s (3 players)
Hero bets $1.39 (All-In), CO folds, Button calls $1.39.
Did I jump the gun here? Should I have bet half the pot to see where I was?
Turn: ($4.06) :Js (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($4.06) :6c (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $4.06
Results in white below:
Hero has As Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has 4h 4d (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Button wins $4.06.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) converter
UTG ($1.38)
UTG+1 ($1.16)
MP1 ($0.86)
MP2 ($2.36)
Hero ($1.93)
Button ($1.71)
SB ($8.24)
BB ($5.48)
Preflop: Hero is CO with :Jh, :Ah.
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, 1 fold, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.06.
Flop: ($0.34) :Jc, :6s, :2d (4 players)
SB bets $0.2, UTG raises to $1.3, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.85, SB calls $1.65.
Fold this here? TPTK, but perhaps a fold was called for?
Turn: ($5.34) :4c (3 players)
River: ($5.34) :9h (3 players)
Final Pot: $5.34
Results in white below:
UTG has Jd Kd (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Jh Ah (one pair, jacks).
SB has 2c 6c (two pair, sixes and twos).
Outcome: SB wins $5.34.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) converter
Hero ($1.58)
Button ($1.03)
SB ($1.96)
BB ($3.57)
UTG ($5.37)
MP1 ($1.50)
MP2 ($4.65)
Preflop: Hero is CO with :Ks, :Kc.
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10.
Flop: ($0.37) :6s, :Qh, :Js (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.5, BB calls $0.50, MP1 folds.
Turn: ($1.37) :4s (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.96 (All-In), BB calls $0.96.
I knew the flush was a possibility, but if Villian had it he defied pot odds to chase it as I had made a larger than pot sized bet to chase and flush draws out. Guess I was wrong
River: ($3.29) :9c (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $3.29
Results in white below:
Hero has Ks Kc (one pair, kings).
BB has 7s As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: BB wins $3.29.
Thanks for any input.
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Posted Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:48 am GMT by lilitu
I could probably argue about your judgment in one or two hands but frankly when you're playing at a limit where a fist full of change represents a buy in then tactical advice is a little mute.
The fact is in a 0.01-0.02 game there's almost nothing to be learned that you won't know from limit play. No limit Hold'em thrives on a sense of loss. When a strong buyin is $2 there can be no sense of loss.
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Have worked my NL bankroll up to just over 13.5 buy-ins with an earn rate of 7.07 PTBB/Hr. ( A PT BB is twice the big blind which makes sense) |
Nothing about a PTBB makes sense to me, in NL express yourself in BB's, its much simpler. I play £1-£1 NL in my local casino and average £14.20 an hour on 200+ hours logged. That’s about the same as your rate. If I could offer you some simple advice it would be this;
The way to learn anything is from the best, you won't find the best in the 0.01-0.02 game. In other words; You can't sharpen a knife with butter.
Lilitu
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